BarkRiver Ek Night Fighter

MelancholyMutt said:
The facts and actions speak for themselves... the loudest of all facts, the fact that Stewart marked the knives Expedition Knives...
Many other makers out there have been in business much longer than Stewart, and have managed to run their businesses without one single character complaint. Stewart has racked up quite a few die hard haters in three short years...
Then, you've got a few numbnuts who think it's alright for a white guy to counterfeit a name and knife but not alright for an asian guy to copy a knife design.

Oh, and we don't hear from the Richmond Ek shop because they're not computer savvy. They still take orders by mail and only mail and can only be contacted by phone. They're still living in the previous generation and making knives by hand just like they did twenty years ago.
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The marketing of the knives with the Expedition mark proves nothing about ownership of the EK mark at the time that Bark River as producing knives with the EK mark.

"Die hard haters"? You bet.

What, you never told the "Richmond Shop" (Do you even know the name of the company? A clue: "EK" is not part of it and never was.) that they were being wronged? They have a website.

As for the "asian issue," what Vampyre Wolf said. Crap is crap whether made in the U.S., Germany, wherever. Same for quality. My absolutely best blades are Japanese swords. I have no complaint about the quality of the CRKT folders I have (M-18's); they have flawless F&F - lock up with no movement in any direction. I collect khukuris in a serious (diseased) way, and not a one is from anywhere but Asia, even the Reinhardt's.
 
You're splitting hairs on an issue that isn't being discussed...
the point is, Stewart is a liar and a thief, not my ability as a debater...
 
That's right, I hate those who lie, steal and cheat, and will not tolerate those who do.
and I'm beginning to hate you...
 
MelancholyMutt said:
That's right, I hate those who lie, steal and cheat, and will not tolerate those who do.
and I'm beginning to hate you...
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Gee, does this mean that you and I aren't going to be best friends? :confused:
 
MelancholyMutt said:
You're splitting hairs on an issue that isn't being discussed...
the point is, Stewart is a liar and a thief, not my ability as a debater...
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Hey don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
:yawn:
 
I am a dealer for Bark River knives. I do it as a sideline (I'm a lawyer in my "day job"), and got into it only because I liked the products so much. At shows I've spoken to people who are die-hard Mike Stewart fans and those who are just as fervently not his fans. The one thing just about everybody from both camps agrees on is that Mike Stewart makes one heck of a good knife.

Okay, so Mike's a controversial figure in the knife world -- but he's certainly not the only one, by far. I can only speak from my experience with him, but he's always kept his word to me, has been fair to the point of generiousity in all my dealings with him, and makes some damn fine knives for a reasonable price.
 
Wow, just like Arc flashlights. Some people think the guy behind the product is a butthole, some think he's an honorable man, both love his product
 
I wasn't there, don't know anything first hand about the facts, and don't pretend to know what the "true story" was. However, I'm a criminal defense attorney, board certified in criminal law, and after dealing with the feds for several years can tell you that it doesn't take much to get indicted. Basically, all someone -- anyone -- has to do is point a finger.
 
Mutt, the fact that you made such a remark should be enough to cast doubt on any and all of your other comments. You know absolutely nothing about me or my integrity, yet think nothing of accusing me of dishonestly based on the mere fact of my profession.
 
Another courtroom trick, ala highschool logic class... if A=B, and B=C, then A=C...
It's fine and dandy in the courtroom and classroom, but we're talking about X,Y, and Z...

And, we all know how reliable the word of a lawyer is... :D
 
Well,

If X=Y and Y=Z then X=Z.

Does not matter is it classroom, court room or real life. It does not matter what letter are you using. You may define other relation which does not behave this way - for example let it be <next-to> means A <next-to> B is true if A=B+1. Then for this operation

If A<next-to>B and B<next-to>C does mean thay A is nor <next-to> C - because it will be A=C+2.

Or it may be <not equal> in this case

A <not-equal>B and B<not equal>C can not say anything about A and C relation in regards to <not-equal> it may or may not be equal.

Etc. but in general everything is ruled by logic if you able to applay it. Of course logic is not limited to "if A=B and B=C then A=C".
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I have ordered another one Ek knife made by BarkRiver - very happy with it, I hope it will always be "made in USA".

Thanks, Vassili.
 
You cannot have a reasoned discussion with a troll. He lives to excite violent controversy. Name-calling is his stock-in-trade.

This one, in a week, has called the general body of BladeForums members "rascist" and Nike Stewart a liar and a criminal. BF, as an institution, is apparently OK with this.
 
About the whole Mike Stewart thing.

I just wanted to say thanks for posting the link to the knife on AG Russell's website :cool: - I was looking at the other version of this knife on another site for more than twice as much $$ so I just picked up the 'Night Fighter' for the $49.95 instead - what a deal on a great knife!!!

Thanks again!
 
Thomas Linton said:
You cannot have a reasoned discussion with a troll. He lives to excite violent controversy. Name-calling is his stock-in-trade.

This one, in a week, has called the general body of BladeForums members "rascist" and Nike Stewart a liar and a criminal. BF, as an institution, is apparently OK with this.
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Actually Tommy,
I am a contributing member of the BF community with many friends and a stellar reputation. I support the community and members financially and in spirit again and again over the few years I have been here. My only vice is that I have very little tolerance for Bullsh*t and will be the first to speak out against it.

You on the other hand, crusade for someone who's reputation has been long known as dubious at best, and make personal attacks against me instead of presenting valid arguements as to why about a dozen people are wrong about Mike Stewart's reputation. If there really is a troll in this thread, it's in your mirror!
 
Alas. I cannot claim to have but a single vice, and I envy you your "many friends." However, my vices do not include labeling the membership here, "racist" or labeling an entire profession untrustworthy simply because of their profession.

As for the "crusade," I merely dared to question the claims and innuendos that you broadcast about certain knives. The entire Stewart matter in the past? I leave that to the facts and those who know them, but my merely questioning whether the Ek mark had been misappropriated -- in this instance -- was the occasion for you to immediately label me "racist."

All here, "racist" or not, will form their own opinions.
 
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