Barret 50 caliber .

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I hope thats how its spelled . Any of you boys ever shoot one of these ? Whats the recoil like ? The one I saw was meant to be shot from a bipod .
Do you think it could be shot standing up or would you be relocated into the next county ?
 
Depending on the model, Barrett rifles are pretty heavy, like 22-34.6 lbs or so.
They are pretty long as well, making the weight more awkward to support.

just add rifles and dot com to the name for more info.

DaddyDett
 
the muzzle brake lowers the recoil substantially. You could shoot one standing, but the size and weight of the gun would make it awkward and hard to hold it steady. Someday I will have the dough for one of those. . .:thumbup:
 
The recoil isnt bad because the whole thing is on hydrolics with the exception of the outer portion of the frame, and with their semi auto action it helps a bunch. I have read up that most dear rifles kick harder, the Barrett is more of a push.
They have bipods on them because they weigh in starting around 28lbs, at least last time I looked. Most of it the 3 foot barrel out front. If you can mount one to your shoulder and hold it on target you are more a man than I.

There is a magazine on the news stands that is Barrett's first publicaion. Pretty cool stuff. They talk about taking out Iraqi gun positions at 1.3 miles, and incredible stuff like that, as well as their new cartridge the .416 which stays above the speed of sound out to 3000 meters.
 
LOTS of fun, recoil isn't bad, but yeah, definitely too heavy to shoot standing up, at least with short arms like mine(heck, to be honest, have problem holding long barrel on my M39 steady just due to leverage of the heavy barrel and my short arms). A blast to shoot though. Set backstop on fire when friends and I were shooting it. :) Spotter/incendiary type round into jerry can with a few ounces of gas in bottom of can. Had been sitting in sun for hours, so it was well vaporized, big fireball, set plywood we staple targets to on fire. :)
 
The Barrett was intended for deliberate, long range fire at a variety of military targets, though most I've seen have been used by tactically oriented Civilains (there, is that polite or what?) to punch exceptionally expensive holes in paper at one or two hundred yards!!! The concussion of the muzzle blast, directed sideways by the 5 lb muzzle brake must be experienced to be believed. Last spring, I sat down at a concrete bench at Camp Atterbury (IN Nat'l Guard base) with one of my Accumarks and 60 meticulously crafted hand loaded rounds, made up in half grain increments, and began to fire some very tiny groups. My concentration on my progress was such that I failed to notice a Barrett being set on the bench to my left. His first round's muzzle blast lifted off my left ear protector, blew all my hand loads off the concrete bench, scattering them and hopelessly wasting the last two weeks of work (2-3 hours each evening). I gave up any hope of further accurate shooting, while the cretin at the next bench fired ( and I s__t you not) 42 more rounds at $2 a pop. A pox on inconsiderate Barrett owners, who have no clear idea what that marvelous tool is for ( his "groups" were 4"-5" at 100 yards ). :rolleyes:
 
Anyone owning and using a tool should know what it does. Setting up the Barret next to you and knocking down your materials is rude and kinda shocking. I guess there are some folks with more money than brains or common sense.

I've always wanted one. Some of the literature I've read states it is the recoil of a 12 gauge.


munk
 
Watching his shoulder come back and his head/hair flop, I would deduce the recoil as about that of a 12 guage 3" Mag. Not bad standing up (Lord, not with a Barrett) but not for the faint of heart, or for extended shooting off a bench. After 43 rounds expended, he left the empties on the ground..."I don't reload". Then he went home with a 30 pound club, until the next time he could aford some more ammunition!!!
 
wOW 4 INCH GROUPS AT A HUNDRED YARDS ? My marlin 30-30 does better than that if I drop it on the ground ! L:O:L
The guy must be flinching .
Wow 28 pounds More or less . I,m paunchy and portly now . There was a time when I could handle a jack hammer vertically but not at shoulder height . You never know I might be able to get a round off . Thats an easy thing to speculate upon in front of a puter screen .Breath control and lotsa chi . Even on T:V: its a solid looking affair .
 
munk said:
Anyone owning and using a tool should know what it does. Setting up the Barret next to you and knocking down your materials is rude and kinda shocking. I guess there are some folks with more money than brains or common sense.

I've always wanted one. Some of the literature I've read states it is the recoil of a 12 gauge.

munk
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There was the guy who had 380 ammo in a 9mm uzi . Don,t ask me how . I,m glad I had full face protection on . The brass just exploded .I,ve seen hunters using rifles as canes with either end in the dirt .("Don,t worry its not loaded >") People leaning on their 45 so as to not dirty their hand picking up empties . 30-30 caliber single shot Thompson contenteder pistol . It went click and the guy immediately cracked her open to look at the primer .(Don,t worry I know what the problem is . )
(Don,t worry , be happy!)

Hey Munk maybe we could go halfsies .
 
I have this bronze Borneo cannon..... :rolleyes:

Never quite understood the civilian value of a BMG .50 cal Barret or other rifle, unless the wild game is flying a helicopter. Or hiding out in an APC.

Or if the T-Rex comes back and you want a quick kill.

I have heard there is a BMG .50 cal PISTOL! That would definetly take some very big yarbles to fire.

Are these things made from 50 cal machine gun barrels?
 
My local shop has 2 for sale, one a bolt action..the other a semi-auto. With scope the bolt is over $2800, and the semi-auto over $3600. The store owner is a very honest guy, not a price gouger, and says he sells one every couple months. My point is this; unless you are actually contemplating shooting serious targets over a mile away, and have the talent to actually use such a specialized tool, there are much more practical, true long range rifles (600-1200 yards) that weigh less, cost less than half, and are much easier to hit with consistently, so why bother? Ask, what am I really trying to accomplish? If it's just to get your rocks off, there are better ways.
 
I am flipping through the Barrett magazine and I was wrong... the single shot that they are selling is 21-25 lbs, depending on the configuration. Of course add 10-12oz to that if it is loaded.
These things really are a waste to shoot at 100yds. The .50 dosen't start to 'level out' at 100 yards. From what I have read they begin to come into their element around 300-400 yards. For some reason that I have never understood, yet I keep finding it in literature, you can have 2-4 inch groups at 100, and at 300 have them in a cloverleaf.
I havent read the Barrett magazine from cover to cover, but I am interested if I will hear about that stuff again.
 
Concentricity, and boat tail bullets. If a heavy, long-for-caliber slug hits the rifling a thousanth or so off center (all military ammo is a teensy bit undersized for feeding in combat conditions, so it lays in the bottom of the chamber a little off center) it will warble around for a couple hundred yards til it settles down. Even then I would NOT expect 'cloverleafs' , just less spread way out there than the first 100 yards would suggest.
 
Of course, anyone who's ready John Ross' work knows that .50BMG is really for children and small women. Real men shoot at least a 4 bore, and big guys should be shooting a 2. 2000 gr of lead in front of blackpowder pushing 1200-1600fps. On some tests up to 2100fps one guy supposedly broke ribs trying to fire it. :)

http://www.centuryarms.com.au/docs/4bore.html

http://www.african-hunter.com/4-bore_part_i.htm

http://www.african-hunter.com/4-bore_part_ii.htm

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etp777 said:
Of course, anyone who's ready John Ross' work knows that .50BMG is really for children and small women. Real men shoot at least a 4 bore, and big guys should be shooting a 2. 2000 gr of lead in front of blackpowder pushing 1200-1600fps. On some tests up to 2100fps one guy supposedly broke ribs trying to fire it. :)
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Son ,what do you do after you get back up ! L:O:L

That is one solid looking arm . What does that one weigh in at ?
 
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"A man has to know his limitations."
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jurassicnarc44 said:
My local shop has 2 for sale, one a bolt action..the other a semi-auto. With scope the bolt is over $2800, and the semi-auto over $3600. The store owner is a very honest guy, not a price gouger, and says he sells one every couple months. My point is this; unless you are actually contemplating shooting serious targets over a mile away, and have the talent to actually use such a specialized tool, there are much more practical, true long range rifles (600-1200 yards) that weigh less, cost less than half, and are much easier to hit with consistently, so why bother? Ask, what am I really trying to accomplish? If it's just to get your rocks off, there are better ways.
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Wow. The price seems to have gone down though, because the first one I ever saw was at The Traders gun shop in San Leandro in 1993 or so. It was a semi-auto Barrett light-50 w/ detachable magazine and it was going for $6250 and that was without a scope IIRC. Maybe the earlier ones were different. (?)

I read last year in the CRPA publication that Barrett Tillman stopped all sales of his rifles to LA because they passed a law outlawing the sale and ownership of these .50's down there. Of course the police had an exemption and still wanted them, and wanted the ones they had repaired, but he told the city they could fix their own damned rifles and make new ones if they wanted them. Good guy.

If I lived out in Nevada or anyplace where I could really enjoy it, I might spring for one, but taking one to a range is asinine IMO unless you're by yourself. Seems kind of wasted at anything less than 500 yards. It's amazing the yahoos and camo-commandos you run into sometimes at the range. I was at an indoor range with a couple of friends just fooling around with our 1911's and this guy shows up with an original Wildey .45 mag. that looked bigger than he was. Damn that thing was loud! He couldn't hit anything, but he was very proud that he made so much noise. :D

I haven't been next to anyone shooting a .454 Casull or S&W .500 yet, but hope to be outside when that happens.

BTW, I hope you picked up that once-fired brass? What an idget...!:confused:

Regards,

Norm
 
Svashtar said:
It's amazing the yahoos and camo-commandos you run into sometimes at the range. I was at an indoor range with a couple of friends just fooling around with our 1911's and this guy shows up with an original Wildey .45 mag. that looked bigger than he was. Damn that thing was loud! He couldn't hit anything, but he was very proud that he made so much noise. :D

Regards,

Norm
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While we were out in Phoenix last April Dave K was nice enough to take me to an indoor range to fire some of his pistoles.:thumbup: :D
There was a guy there with, I think Dave said a .40 caliber jamamatic that wasn't jammin at all, but was really loud and throwing spent cases all over the place.
Even with hearing protection the damned thing was really loud!
Also seems like Dave said the guy was shooting some pretty hot loads.

All in all a very discerning experience. :(
 
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