Batoning or not to Baton that is the question.....

Cobalt

Cobalt

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So I found this video today, not sure if you guys have seen it, but it had me laughing my azz off. This video should have been called "Batoning gone Wild"

has anyone batoned anything bigger than this?

[video=youtube;Jzy-9eO8Uuw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzy-9eO8Uuw[/video]
 
I watched it... I'm drinking whiskey... and I'm just really at a loss for words. No Cobalt, I have not... nor do I intend to--but hey, glad to see that even that wild sh!t did not break the BM.
 
No fair, there were two of them! :grumpy: :p

Maybe not quite as extreme, but I did this near Grand Lake last summer, by myself, with my 1311. Wood was a bit greener than theirs was, and I will openly admit, that made it a b!tch to baton through!!! :eek: (The other thicker log on the ground to the left was chopped up by the 1311 too.)

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I did get the 1311 all the way through, but somewhere about 1/2 way down, it hit a bad knot and bent the edge pretty substantially. This pic is after I messaged it back to flat as best I could without worrying about it breaking. The knife is still plenty useable, though will never be straight right there again.

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That 1311 did pretty good. Considering that most knives would not have survived a log that large in the first place, consider it a test passed. And I am not joking. Take these pics or video to almost any other forum and they will call it extreme abuse and it would not be covered by any warranty. It is fairly extreme. The force that you have to hit the blade with to get it to cut through a tree that thick is fairly high.
 
ExtraBaconPlease said:
Tac is the man

[video=youtube;b45HqzdaVck]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b45HqzdaVck[/video]
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1070 steel and an Rc of 54 with a low sabre grind make for a very strong wedge albeit terrible edge geometry and edge holding. You can do that probably with a 440A/B steel at an Rc of 54-55 as well. Sabre Grind, low Rc, low Carbon.

There is a giant difference in force between splitting 10" tree vs splitting a 6 inch tree. When you consider the SR101 has an Rc of 59, that is a big difference in hardness.

Looks like the log that the 1311 split was probably 8"
The log this one split looks more like 5"
The log the BM split looks pretty close to 9-10 iinch.

I have tried to single handledly baton through a 9 log and it is so hard and you are wacking the very tip of the blade which is the weakest part. But I have never batoned a big 8" log that is that long. I would not even try it, lol. I would do a 5" though no problem.
 
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There was a guy who posted pick of batoning through a log that looked about 10-12 feet long. But it was not as thick . He was using an AK?
 
SpyderPhreak said:
No fair, there were two of them! :grumpy: :p

Maybe not quite as extreme, but I did this near Grand Lake last summer, by myself, with my 1311. Wood was a bit greener than theirs was, and I will openly admit, that made it a b!tch to baton through!!! :eek: (The other thicker log on the ground to the left was chopped up by the 1311 too.)

561D20D1-B2DE-4575-A9DE-A74D31452525.jpg


ADB27F11-231F-4845-972B-52850874F705.jpg


I did get the 1311 all the way through, but somewhere about 1/2 way down, it hit a bad knot and bent the edge pretty substantially. This pic is after I messaged it back to flat as best I could without worrying about it breaking. The knife is still plenty useable, though will never be straight right there again.

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Great photos. One of the issues with baton Ning, is once you get the misalignment, that bent portion grabs more wood and the deflection can get worse as it is forced through the wood scooping out more wood at that bent angle.
 
Cobalt said:
1070 steel and an Rc of 54 with a low sabre grind make for a very strong wedge albeit terrible edge geometry and edge holding. You can do that probably with a 440A/B steel at an Rc of 54-55 as well. Sabre Grind, low Rc, low Carbon.

There is a giant difference in force between splitting 10" tree vs splitting a 6 inch tree. When you consider the SR101 has an Rc of 59, that is a big difference in hardness.

Looks like the log that the 1311 split was probably 8"
The log this one split looks more like 5"
The log the BM split looks pretty close to 9-10 iinch.

I have tried to single handledly baton through a 9 log and it is so hard and you are wacking the very tip of the blade which is the weakest part. But I have never batoned a big 8" log that is that long. I would not even try it, lol. I would do a 5" though no problem.
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Yeah i agree with everything you said i just thought it was a cool vid - never seen a log that long being batoned haha
 
Battoning was the the 2nd task I put this one through when trying it out (my 1st user SHBM of any kind or generation- it's an Industrial Grade "ASHaBooM"). An old Imperial Oak bough I cut a piece off of that had air seasoned...soft outer layer, but that heart felt like a rock. Split nicely though. :thumbup:

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ExtraBaconPlease said:
Yeah i agree with everything you said i just thought it was a cool vid - never seen a log that long being batoned haha
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Neither have I lol. But I would probably never baton anything as qide or long as these logs lol. Unless I was drunk
 
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