Battle Saw Teeth

rockspyder said:
Ok, I'm gonna come across like a smart@$$ here, but this is a half serious question: has no one on this thread ever used the old standard-style crosscut hand saw? Those have been using teeth that cut on the push for probably at least a couple hundred years now. Busse didn't go and reverse the standard way of sawing. He went back to the standard. For saw backs, his Battle Saw is the first one that has ever made sense. Or am I missing something here??
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Not to argue Busse "did it wrong" with the BS, but there's a world of difference between the grip of a crosscut saw and the straight-handle grip of the BS, and how easy it is to apply pushing force with them. Not to mention the fact that the BS has no integrated guard to speak of, meaning that a hand slip on a forward push could result in you essentially separating your thumb's metacarpal from your palm like slicing off a Thanksgiving drumstick ;)

For its intended purpose, which is very limited sawing by someone experienced enough to improvise a D-guard/handwrap and be damn careful about it, I'm sure it's a fine design. But I personally wouldn't want to use one.
 
I wonder if sanding every other tooth one side then the rest on the other could improve the saw utility? :confused:
 
AZTimT said:
I wonder if sanding every other tooth one side then the rest on the other could improve the saw utility? :confused:
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It would about have too. That is how saw teeth are. Clears the channel as it cuts.
 
u812 said:
It would about have too. That is how saw teeth are. Clears the channel as it cuts.
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I was wondering the same thing, obviously that would add a considerable amount of labor for a production blade though, maybe we'll see it in a future LE version, or there is always the custom shop...whenever it opens back up!
 
Hmm, or a narrow low speed grinder...
 
A lot of my hand saws are push cutters.

Also important to note, no one expects you to cut down large trees, or huge pieces.

It is a notcher, or small branch at most.


It would also likely work on thin aluminum and sheet metal (like the originals were designed to do)

Most importantly, it adds a bunch of blade catchers to your big ole knife!

Wish I had two, with the Dguards too!
 
Dr. Lecter said:
Not to argue Busse "did it wrong" with the BS, but there's a world of difference between the grip of a crosscut saw and the straight-handle grip of the BS, and how easy it is to apply pushing force with them. Not to mention the fact that the BS has no integrated guard to speak of, meaning that a hand slip on a forward push could result in you essentially separating your thumb's metacarpal from your palm like slicing off a Thanksgiving drumstick ;)

For its intended purpose, which is very limited sawing by someone experienced enough to improvise a D-guard/handwrap and be damn careful about it, I'm sure it's a fine design. But I personally wouldn't want to use one.
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I wouldn't have any problem with it. But I'm used to sawing that way. YMMV. I think it's a great, proper design, and corrects the backwards-ness of most other saw-backs. But, than again, I generally keep my saws separate from my knives, so I didn't get the Battle Saw. But I still recognize the appropriateness of the design.
 
rockspyder said:
I wouldn't have any problem with it. But I'm used to sawing that way. YMMV. I think it's a great, proper design, and corrects the backwards-ness of most other saw-backs. But, than again, I generally keep my saws separate from my knives, so I didn't get the Battle Saw. But I still recognize the appropriateness of the design.
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Do a lot of sawing that way using a straight, guardless handle leading right to a sharpened edge atop your push-cut saws, do you?

It's a fine design for a saw, and it'll work well in the BS's intended application too assuming the user takes proper precautions...but I can see why saw-backed knives have traditionally sacrificed the arguably superior sawing ability of the push cut, for the indisputably safer approach of having the user direct the force/their hand away from the knife edge.
 
Having looked at the knife again, I was wrong. I think a D guard would help, but isn't necessary. Still think it's an awesome looking knife!
 
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The same integral front guard that prevents your hand from accidentally sliding onto the knife's edge also prevents your hand from sliding far enough forward to make contact with the saw teeth. :thumbup:

You would either have to completely let go of the knife or remove 4 of your fingers in order to defeat this design.:thumbup: :eek::D
 
Jerry Busse said:
The same integral front guard that prevents your hand from accidentally sliding onto the knife's edge also prevents your hand from sliding far enough forward to make contact with the saw teeth. :thumbup:

You would either have to completely let go of the knife or remove 4 of your fingers in order to defeat this design.:thumbup: :eek::D
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And boom goes the dynamite
 
breavis5694 said:
Wow, at just under 200 posts I wouldn't tell the creator of a bad ass knife that he did it wrong on his forum..... I do all kinds of stupid stuff but never that
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Right... we recommend waiting until your at least around 1400 posts before telling the boss, he's doing it wrong. :rolleyes: Typically 3000 posts on a knife forum is a safe number to be considered a knife expert.
 
adrock1978 said:
Right... we recommend waiting until your at least around 1400 posts before telling the boss, he's doing it wrong. :rolleyes: Typically 3000 posts on a knife forum is a safe number to be considered a knife expert.
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Jerry does no wrong.... post number be damned
 
Jerry Busse said:
The same integral front guard that prevents your hand from accidentally sliding onto the knife's edge also prevents your hand from sliding far enough forward to make contact with the saw teeth. :thumbup:

You would either have to completely let go of the knife or remove 4 of your fingers in order to defeat this design.:thumbup: :eek::D
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Alas, I have 1 1/2 fingers --- I'm screwed
 
Rob_Mob said:
Alas, I have 1 1/2 fingers --- I'm screwed
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You're only 1 1/2 fingers away from sliding forward onto the saw teeth! :thumbup:

Sadly, since the teeth are raked forward, you're probably not going to cut yourself anyway.:grumpy:

Might as well leave your remaining 1 1/2 fingers where they are.:thumbup:

Let's drink!

Jerry:D

 
Jerry Busse said:


You're only 1 1/2 fingers away from sliding forward onto the saw teeth! :thumbup:

Sadly, since the teeth are raked forward, you're probably not going to cut yourself anyway.:grumpy:

Might as well leave your remaining 1 1/2 fingers where they are.:thumbup:

Let's drink!

Jerry:D
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Sadly, I'm not really paying attention to what Mr. Jerry is saying, just to the hours that he's saying it. I LOVE IT! If I die prematurely my shade will wander this plane until it can get torn up with the man himself.

Let's Drink! Let's LIVE!
 
grogimus said:
Sadly, I'm not really paying attention to what Mr. Jerry is saying, just to the hours that he's saying it. I LOVE IT! If I die prematurely my shade will wander this plane until it can get torn up with the man himself.

Let's Drink! Let's LIVE!
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Come to BLADE Show this year and we'll perforate our livers together!:thumbup:

Jerry:D
 
Lance23 said:
As fun as you and the whole crew must be, I might risk my marriage to try and be there.
How else will I be inducted as a True Hog?
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That's what I'm talkin' about!!!!:thumbup:

Sounds like it would make for a great T-Shirt!!!. . . Watson!!!!. . . Get on this!!!

Welcome to HOGdom. . . . Wrecking marriages since 1982!!!:eek:

Let's Drink!:thumbup:

Jerry:D

 
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