BBB 15v use reports?

carnifex knifeworks carnifex knifeworks and barkingspider2007 barkingspider2007 I'm betting the issue both of you experienced with the chipping and edge damage was due to the fact that you were on the factory edge.

Please correct me if I'm wrong and this was not the factory edge.

Factory edges are known to be made using high-speed dry grinding which often damages the steel at the apex from overheating it causing it to not perform anywhere near where the steel's potential is.

Typically you'll have to sharpen the knife multiple times, in order to get back to properly heat treated steel so the knife will perform as expected.

I wouldn't be discouraged by this experience at all, I'm sure that within a few sharpenings it'll be performing much better for you. I most definitely wouldn't be forming any negative opinions of the steel or heat treatment based off the factory edge or even the next 1 to 2 edges! Give it a solid 3 or so sharpenings and see if it doesn't behave a lot better for you.

I do not pretend to know anything about Spyderco's manufacturing processes on this steel, so I'm speculating here, but this exact issue is a known problem in the industry at large. DeadboxHero DeadboxHero will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong as it relates to Spyderco and this steel he worked on.
 
The Knife Life said:
carnifex knifeworks carnifex knifeworks and barkingspider2007 barkingspider2007 I'm betting the issue both of you experienced with the chipping and edge damage was due to the fact that you were on the factory edge.

Please correct me if I'm wrong and this was not the factory edge.

Factory edges are known to be made using high-speed dry grinding which often damages the steel at the apex from overheating it causing it to not perform anywhere near where the steel's potential is.

Typically you'll have to sharpen the knife multiple times, in order to get back to properly heat treated steel so the knife will perform as expected.

I wouldn't be discouraged by this experience at all, I'm sure that within a few sharpenings it'll be performing much better for you. I most definitely wouldn't be forming any negative opinions of the steel or heat treatment based off the factory edge or even the next 1 to 2 edges! Give it a solid 3 or so sharpenings and see if it doesn't behave a lot better for you.

I do not pretend to know anything about Spyderco's manufacturing processes on this steel, so I'm speculating here, but this exact issue is a known problem in the industry at large. DeadboxHero DeadboxHero will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong as it relates to Spyderco and this steel he worked on.
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It was the factory edge on mine. I already stated in my post that the steel may have been fatigued.
There wasn't a negative opinion expressed, just the facts of what happened when I used the blade.
I 100% agree that you shouldn't form an opinion based on the factory edge. Once I re-sharpen it and dull the edge again, I'll post the experience.
 
My apologies, I did not mean to imply you or anyone else were speaking negatively of the knife, or anything like that. I was just speaking to your comment of being disappointed that the edge damage happened.

Neither of you I was addressing came across to me as saying anything other than sharing your experience, which is obviously completely fair and reasonable.

It was poor wording on my part, so I'm sorry if that came across the wrong way.

I also see I didn't read your comment carefully enough either as you said several things I clearly missed on my initial read-thru. Perhaps I shouldn't be commenting when mentally exhausted from the work day and when it's past my bedtime!
 
The Knife Life said:
My apologies, I did not mean to imply you or anyone else were speaking negatively of the knife, or anything like that. I was just speaking to your comment of being disappointed that the edge damage happened.

Neither of you I was addressing came across to me as saying anything other than sharing your experience, which is obviously completely fair and reasonable.

It was poor wording on my part, so I'm sorry if that came across the wrong way.

I also see I didn't read your comment carefully enough either as you said several things I clearly missed on my initial read-thru. Perhaps I shouldn't be commenting when mentally exhausted from the work day and when it's past my bedtime!
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No worries! We've all been there!

I think this forum is a form of therapy for a lot of us, so post/comment freely!
 
Just sayin’ I like your discussions. Appreciate you’re sharing your experience as I am riding in this
rodeo too!
 
Thanks for that insight Sal! Great to hear you guys are doing that.

In light of your information, I can only agree with you.
 
Hey Sal. You know it only bugged me until I came to realize that “perfect” symmetry of a factory grind is not at all critical of its utility function. In my first weeks of BF participation, I made a couple blunder posts. One was regarding blade edge grind symmetry of a beloved Spyderco. So many people chimed in that I came to realize it’s ok. Just the way it is. Being a machine shop guy just takes me a minute to roll with that. All my knives are sharp as I would ever need. I’m very happy with all 3. 😉👍⚔️
 
Hi Screebo,

The Edge is a Ghost. Always changing. Dying (dulling) being reborn (sharpened) split personality (angles and geometry changing).

Think of the edge as gas in a vehicle. It runs out of gas and you put in more gas. We provide the format, materials, design for use, variety to avoid boredom and create interest, but the edge is your creation. The result of your understanding, education, experience and practice.

sal
 
No kidding, your words could be the start of a country music song. I play guitar. Thanks for your insightful thoughts. I not only get ya, I’m with ya. I’m starting to get it pretty quickly regarding knife edge facts of life. 😇🌴👍
 
I'm really appreciating the 15V PM2. Great edge holding and easy to touch up to a scorching edge. Right now it's my favorite steel especially with the HT and I've used it hard enough to need three touch-ups on a fine stone.
 
tomsch said:
I'm really appreciating the 15V PM2. Great edge holding and easy to touch up to a scorching edge. Right now it's my favorite steel especially with the HT and I've used it hard enough to need three touch-ups on a fine stone.
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Great report! My 3 Bears are being rotated with light use. 100% satisfied with real life use performance 👍
 
Brett Sisco said:
Kicked k390 and maxamet out of my pocket. Edge retention seems better then maxamet. However, Strops like a softer steel. Very impressive.
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All I can say is that many great steels to choose from these days. I own and love Damasteel, MagnaCut, 20CV, 154CM, M4, Maxamet and BBB 15V. I’ve been pulled to the 15V’s for light to medium use around the yard and house. They just stay sharp! Stropping has been my only maintenance.
 
I've been carrying the Manix 2 in 15v for the last 8 months.
Cut tested 800 feet of cardboard on the factory edge.
Ran the blade on a bench stone at a 90 degree angle to remove the edge.
Sharpened 2x to get the factory edge fully removed.

- Sticky sharp off the stone
- The burr is easy to remove com paired to S110v
- Strops up easy and hair popping sharp
- Makes breaking down boxes on trash night something to look forward too.
- Zero chipping, this might have to do with removing the factory edge early.
- The "working edge" for most folks should last a year, very impressive.

I like 15v and K390 as every day carry steel.
The Magnacut at 65 Rockwell is good for hunting and fishing, most folks are running it soft, Montana knife .. : (

I would love to see the Manix 2 lightweight in 15v become part of the standard Spyderco lineup.
 
Off topic, but barkingspider2007 barkingspider2007 would you mind elaborating on the "running soft" comment? I have reached out to MKC a handful of times asking what Rockwell they run their Magnacut, but have never received a reply back. Those are actually the only instances I've never received a response when I've asked them questions.
Do you know how they run theirs, or are speaking from experience using the knives?
Feel free to PM me as well, if that's better so I don't clog up this thread. Thank you!
 
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