Be Careful Dealing with TxSportsman

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I'd like everyone to know to be very careful with dealing with TxSportsman. I bought a custom slip joint from him, made by Tracy LaRock. That thread can be found here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/tracy-larock-native.1550104/
Before editing, he stated that the knife was perfectly centered and brand new. There was no picture showing the centering, however. When I received the knife, I found it to be very off-center, one of the pivot screws had become pretty shiny from handling, and a lot of side-to-side blade play. The blade can be pushed to the center and will remain there until it is opened and closed, at which point it will go back to being off-center.
Within just a few minutes, I sent a PM to TxSportsman informing him of these issues, and asking to send the knife back him for a refund. He responded by saying that he didn't have any of these issues and wondered if someone may have messed with it. I certainly didn't mess with it, and even if I had wanted to, I wouldn't have had time. I can easily prove that I had been in Florida all week and that my flight landed just shortly before I sent him a message. The USPS box was undamaged, so these issues had to be present at the time of shipping. TxSportsman attached a photo in his message showing the blade centered, but as I explained, it can easily be pushed to the center and a picture could be taken with it centered, but that's not where it naturally wants to rest.
In my next message, I asked again that I be allowed to return the knife for a refund, and explained that I could ship tomorrow (2/10). I also explained how the blade could easily be pushed to the center and that a picture could be taken with it like that. *The centering photo was never in the sale thread*
I didn't get a response for a little while, so I messaged him again asking if I could return the knife. A few minutes later he responded and was offended that I would suggest that he took the centering picture after pushing on the blade, and also suggested that I try to adjust the pivot. At that point it was clear that he was refusing a return/refund, so I thanked him for showing his moral character and told him I thought he should be better than that. He responded by again denying that anything was wrong and telling me again to contact Tracy. He asked if I could send a video of the problem. I explained that uploading a video via PM doesn't really work on Bladeforums, and I asked him to text me or contact me on facebook messenger. That was hours ago, and it is clear that he isn't willing to accept a return and issue a refund on a knife that was grossly misrepresented.
I took several videos and contacted Tracy LaRock on Instagram, and he replied immediately and asked me to call him. He had pictures of the knife when he made it/sold it, and the blade was actually a few thousandths of an inch off-center the other way. Tracy said that by the one pivot screw being shiny and the fact that the centering had moved so much, along with the blade play, it was clear that someone had either taken the knife apart, which shouldn't be done, or someone had tried to make adjustments and had messed up. He asked for the sellers name, which I provided, and he informed me that he was not the original owner. It looks like I'll have to send the knife in to Tracy for repair, even though I didn't cause the damage.
I have sent a message to TxSportsman letting him know about this thread, and I have provided all of our private messages to a mod here on bladeforums so that they are fully aware of the situation. I always believe that a deal isn't done until both parties are satisfied, but obviously TxSportsman doesn't believe the same thing. For anyone that considers dealing with this guy, ask plenty of questions and request more pictures and videos, because he is happy to hide the imperfections.
 
pwrdbycotn (Billy) is a standup straightshooting guy,he is as good as gold so to me his word stands!Billy,pay the return shipping and be (hopefully!) done with the seller,all the best!
 
Thanks for the heads up Billy, unless this issue is resolved, another one goes on the ignore list.
I guess there’s different interpretations of integrity.
 
Looks like TxSportsman is just wanting to pass off his problem knife, and then forget about both sides being happy about the deal. He is not acting very ethical, at this point.
 
T TxSportsman

That is the point of this exercise in this part of the forum..You DO have to defend yourself against allegations.
If both sides aren't happy, then the deal isn't done. Explain why you don't feel like you need to reverse the deal.

For those unaware, the mods can see your edits...
 
I prefer to deal with this issue in private and not make it a public forum open for debate from 3rd parties who are neither involved nor informed. At the posting of his first message nothing had been decided and this is still ongoing. I have other obligations currently that take precedence over this matter as it was just brought to my attention yesterday afternoon. Everyone needs to have a little patience before burning someone at the stake.
 
I prefer to deal with this issue in private and not make it a public forum open for debate from 3rd parties who are neither involved nor informed. At the posting of his first message nothing had been decided and this is still ongoing. I have other obligations currently that take precedence over this matter as it was just brought to my attention yesterday afternoon. Everyone needs to have a little patience before burning someone at the stake.

This is the attitude of someone who belongs on everyone's ignore list. You should have accepted his request for a return immediately. It would not have taken any of your precious time to do so.
 
Thanks for making this public pwrdbycotn - this is how others don’t get caught. This should not even be a discussion - the knife was claimed to be brand new - it isn’t - end of story. Buyer pays return shipping and seller refunds in full. Do the right thing txsportsman.....even if you are busy!
 
I prefer to deal with this issue in private and not make it a public forum open for debate from 3rd parties who are neither involved nor informed. At the posting of his first message nothing had been decided and this is still ongoing. I have other obligations currently that take precedence over this matter as it was just brought to my attention yesterday afternoon. Everyone needs to have a little patience before burning someone at the stake.

No one will burn you at the stake in the blink of an eye ... and the OP has always been a stand up guy in the forums ...

And I understand if some things in your life took precedence as I have alot going on in my life with parents being ill ... and I hope there is nothing bad going on just work or other reasons you might be delayed ...

but the right thing then would have been to address P pwrdbycotn and his concerns and explain you had something necessary you had to take care of in the immediate time ... but that you would contact him later that day when you could and that the you would work with him to make it right ... not start with excuses ...

This forum is the great community it is because of our members ... and that we all kind of took an unwritten oath to watch out for each other ... and it is just not a deal until both sides are happy ...

and if you want it done in private (as I agree it should be) ... then you can't be dismissive of his concerns and put him off ... communicate ALOT with the other party ... and make the time to sort it out ... don't make excuses and don't put it off making someone wait days ... both make it look bad ...

Now you might be and I truely hope you are one of the members that does care about the community and that you will make it right with the OP so this thread can be closed with everyone knowing you stepped up and did the right thing.

I hope it get worked out soon without needing to file claims etc ... and we can keep this from becoming another long drawn out thread with bad outcomes.

JJ
 
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TxSportsman has promised to get back with me after he gets done with a meeting. At this point I am trying to work this out with him privately, and I will give an update with any resolution or lack thereof. Nothing has been agreed to yet. I would be more than happy to pay the return shipping and receive a refund, but time will tell if that's what happens. Thank you to everyone that has expressed confidence in me, both in this thread and privately, I appreciate it.
 
I prefer to deal with this issue in private and not make it a public forum open for debate from 3rd parties who are neither involved nor informed.
Often times, impartial third parties can have some insight that those dealing with the issues may miss.

Choosing to deal with this matter privately tells me that you do not wish to air your dirty laundry and makes me feel that you are trying to hide something(s).

On top of that, you Did have an opportunity to deal with this matter privately, but you chose to decline his wanting a return. Once this thread became public, your chance at keeping this quite went out the window.
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I have spoken/dealt with Billy prior to this event, and I found him to be honest, and straightforward.

I have not dealt with TxSportsman, so I cannot attest to his character.
 
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I have purchased many knives on this forum and sold many that I have made and ones I didn't . Not to long ago I sold a knife that I missed a few details and the buyer was not happy . I am not going to say I enjoyed sending the refund but when the dust settles from the initial email that something is wrong the right thing to do is a straight up refund , I know some people that complain about every knife they get to try and get a few bucks back from purchase but I still feel a straight up refund is best .

I just took a look at the knife you got and it looks pretty sweet and if you really like it maybe the maker will be able to fix it for you , If you went that route it would be like getting a brand new custom .. Something to consider . Good luck

Mark
 
TxSportsman has agreed to let me return the knife and refund my money. Details of that are being worked out now, but it looks like this issue will be resolved. If anything changes, I'll update the thread. Thanks to everyone that offered a reasonable point of view and advice. Thread closed unless further details are needed.
 
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