Bear and Sons

I want to rat you out, but I can't figure out whom to tell. Local 666 Ye ole Knife Crinkers' Guild?
 
Well, I can't rat on you. I laid the main blade of the Camillus at an angle on a magazine and pushed a little. Now the blades work fine. I'm guilty too. :p
 
I had a Bear & Sons folder several years ago, and it was poorly made. I checked 'em out again in person last weekend at a local Gun & Knife Show to see if they had gotten any better... Nope, still the same crapola. I'd rather spend the $20 at Applebee's (and I don't much care for Applebee's!).
 
Codger_64 said:
Yep. I've had pocket blades on otherwise excellent knives hit the liner hard enough to score it. Don't tell anyone, but my desk is sectional and I insert the offending blade in the (soft wood) crevase and gently tweak it to the side. I do this as many times as it takes to allign it correctly. A cutler might gasp at my technique. I suspect it is supposed to be done on a cutler's anvil with a fine cutler's hammer. Go hence and ask!
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Sounds like a great way to loosen the pivot pin. Real Cutlers use a Crinking machine. As seen in Part II of the GEC Factory Video.
 
The Bear and Son knife I had must have been made on a good day. I was happy with it for what I spent on it. The fit and finish was more than acceptable. The only 'problem' was it was a heavy duty nail breaker. This actually turned out to be a good thing as I gave it to my then seven year old nephew knowing they was no way he'd be able to use it without having an adult around to open it for him. There are a lot of stories the exact opposite of mine though.
 
rma100 said:
Sounds like a great way to loosen the pivot pin. Real Cutlers use a Crinking machine. As seen in Part II of the GEC Factory Video.
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Thomas Linton said:
Oh ye of little faith.
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I told you it wasn't a modern cutler approved method. But older cutlers used a stidy and hammer, not a machine. I have niether because it isn't a common problem for me with the (mostly NOS) knives I buy. And I warned that I wasn't a cutler or qualified t oexplain it. Loosen a pivot? Heck, I'm not talking about putting a cheater bar on it and leaning on it. A couple of fingers and "bouncey-bouncey" then check it, until it is right. I mean, you guys are saying your blades are so soft that you bend them by lifting from the nicks?
 
I have one Bear made that is a nice knife, marketed under the Forney name. I bought it at a country store not far from our lake in the woods of Pennsylvania. "Stag" jigged Delrin handles with as ground style blades. I paid 20 bucks out of the counter top case and am happy with the quality, it's the knife that goes with me if I am in danger of losing it, or someone (ie: a Boy Scout) needs to borrow one.
The other Bear I have is a liner lock one hander that is not good, and my Remington Scout repro is a display case knife only. I'd buy another one of those Forneys though, maybe if that country store still has them I'll check out the single blade Peanut, IIRC they were selling it for 12 bucks. If I don't like it I'll give it to a Scout that doesn't have a decent knife, because my Forney/Bear is definitely better than the gas station knives some of my Scouts have.
 
zippofan said:
I have one Bear made that is a nice knife, marketed under the Forney name. I bought it at a country store not far from our lake in the woods of Pennsylvania. "Stag" jigged Delrin handles with as ground style blades. I paid 20 bucks out of the counter top case and am happy with the quality, it's the knife that goes with me if I am in danger of losing it, or someone (ie: a Boy Scout) needs to borrow one.
The other Bear I have is a liner lock one hander that is not good, and my Remington Scout repro is a display case knife only. I'd buy another one of those Forneys though, maybe if that country store still has them I'll check out the single blade Peanut, IIRC they were selling it for 12 bucks. If I don't like it I'll give it to a Scout that doesn't have a decent knife, because my Forney/Bear is definitely better than the gas station knives some of my Scouts have.
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Reasonable expectations for the pricepoint. A message I cannot overstress.
 
I HAVE TOLD MY TALE OF WOE concerning the Bear&Son knife company several times in the past at this site. Suffice to say a $75.00 four-blade pocketknife was a POS trash and no one at Bear&Son's cared in the slightest. NEither did the powers that be at SMKW who also ignored my what-are-you-gonna-do-about-this-junk inquiery other than keep my money and run and hide. THEN I remembered the "jim parker" post here and realized that the owner of SMKW's is cut from the same bolt of cloth as Parker was, they were pals, and some of the Parker knife mafia still worked at SMKW !!! That was the last money I ever spent with SMKW as there are many honest nice folks to do business with in the cutlery business, and not a damned one of 'em have anything to do with SMKW.
 
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