Beck WSK spec's

do a search here for "WSK". Look for thread titled (more tracker/wsk discussion-hunted) started by gundy. On page 3 LSkylizard posted the specs off of the old Beck web site. I'd post a link but I always mess it up some how?

Jeff
 
Jeff M. said:
do a search here for "WSK". Look for thread titled (more tracker/wsk discussion-hunted) started by gundy. On page 3 LSkylizard posted the specs off of the old Beck web site....
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I do encourage you to do the search. Numerous "threads" have quite a bit of discussion including comments from Beck. I think these are the specs below.
Beck WSK said:
Specs for the Beck WSK "Tracker Knife"

Survival Knife Features

Blade: 1/4" x 6 1/4" Starret 01 high carbon tool steel, differentially hardened and selectively tempered...performance... Each cutting edge has been tempered to a different degree of hardness to compliment its use. With the back left soft to add resiliency and just enough blade flex as to resist breakage under extreme stress. The blades then receive a lengthy wet sanding to 1000 grit. Next, they are hand polished, gun blued, and gently rubbed to ...deep dark grey finish...

2" Flat Ground Double-Sided Chisel Edge : For general carving and drawknife use. Please note pre-1999 models were all hollow ground (recent) knives...feature...flat grind for greater strength with chisel-like performance.

Hook: 1/2" radius hook for specialized tool making and to recess the more delicate chisel edge safely away from the hatchet portion to ensure protection during chopping.

Hatchet Edge: This 3 3/4" portion is flat ground for chopping and splitting and has been tempered slightly softer than the chisel edge for resistance to chipping.

Point: Re-enforced diamond shaped point for deep penetration and added strength.

2 3/4" Wood Saw: Staggered, self-cleaning, hand-cut saw teeth...Used primarily for making traps.

4" Radius Back: Provides a safe location to strike with a stick while driving the hatchet edge deep for splitting wood. Rounded off for a comfortable hand holding position when using the hatchet edge as a scraping tool. This section, which runs along the tang, has been left soft to better absorb stress and resist blade breakage.

Fully Tapered Tang: This feature lessens and redistributes the weight of the knife to the hatchet edge to produce greater momentum and deeper penetration while chopping. The butt has been hard spring-tempered to resist peening if dropped or struck.

Handle: Made from...black or olive/black...linen Micarta. (Additional handle materials available upon request.)...contoured to provide an ergonomically correct fit for the average sized human hand... The rearmost handhold position allows more point weight for greater hatchet use performance, while the forward gripping position provides better center balance for improved control while carving. Handles are secured in place with epoxy and permanently bolted using stainless steel bolts and brass nuts. Guaranteed never to loosen even under the most severe use. A brass-lined lanyard hole is added in the butt.

BECK Stamp: The mark of authenticity to distinguish this as the original hand-made BECK knife.

Overall Length = 12 1/4” Weighs 1lb 12oz w/ Sheath.
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Guys can you help me with this discussion? Who has legal ownership and the right to produce the WSK design. Rumor has it the RS6 Blades is in battle with Tom Brown over the right to produce this knife.
Tom Brown is on the war path and is supposed to coming after all makers of the WSK's. The Discussion is on does he own the design or not and does he have the right to keep others from making it?
 
bartman2 said:
Guys can you help me with this discussion? Who has legal ownership and the right to produce the WSK design...
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I suggest you put in a search. There are numerous WSK threads. Several have replies from Beck specifically on this issue. You can always "bump" one of those threads back up into circulation and discussion. Who owns the design... well if you check the previous discussions, you will find probably nobody. However, I am certain TBrown could hire lawyers and hope to get a court opinion. I believe there was a knife magazine articl from long back in which TBrown wrote something about the blade being a Beck design... although he seems to have backed of that claim since.
Beck knives said:
I often wondered how long it would take someone to find this drawing & I'm happy to see someone finally brought it up.
For those who are curious about this design I certainly can bring some light to the matter as I know more about the "Tracker" knife than anyone.
I can't speak for the smaller knife pictured below as I've only ever seen a drawing myself but the Tom Brown Tracker survival knife shown was actually produced except that it never went by the name "Tracker" back then.
The drawing you see is the pattern Tom Brown drew. This was his origonal design & went by the name the "Medicine Blade" which was etched into the side of the knife. This was the origonal pattern that took Tom Brown seven years (as he claimed back then) to have designed. It was produced for him by a fellow named Ed Lombi, a machinist who stopped making this pattern in the early '90's after the demand for my knives skyrocketed & Ed went on to other interests.
His knife was made from 01 tool steel (1/4" thick from point to butt). It had a flat ground hatchet edge & a hollow ground draw knife. The top edge of the blade was tapered like the hatchet & had a single row of saw teeth which would only cut a "V" as deep as the teeth.
I handled one of these knives during my standard survival class while at Tom Browns' school back in 1987. Although very crude, I saw potential in the design which gave me the inspiration to take it to the drawing board & re-design the knife with my own improvements. From that point on, all of the changes & modifications made from this "Medicine Blade" pattern to the TRACKER knife as we know it from the "The Hunted" film were developed by myself & not Tom Brown. This new pattern was such am improvement that I was asked by Tom Brown himself to produce them for his students.His students began calling my knife the "Tracker" knife once it became associated with Tom Browns' TRACKER School & I became the first to trademark the name.
Of course there's more to the story but I'll leave it at that, now that I filled everyones' curiosity with some interesting historical facts about the knife that most folks never new.


David R. Beck
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Beck knives said:
The current production model of the TRACKER was re-designed by Tom Brown and produced for him by the TOPS knife company. This was their version that varied a bit from the knife I made for "The Hunted". .I have never handled one but I am told it's a decent knife. Any shortcommings could probably be corrected by some fine tuning (OK, maybe alot of) but any knife of that complexity would be difficult to manufacture properly I'm sure on a production level while trying to keep it within a reasonable price range for the market their targeting.
Sometimes corners need to be cut to keep manufacturing profitable. On the other hand, the hand-crafted TRACKER knives are a different animal. More attention can be directed into its detail & construction so feel & performance is noticably enhanced, unfortunately that also means more labor time is involved to do the job right which often puts the pricing of custom knives higher than what we would like them to be. This is true of any knife so one must weigh the factors of necessity to get what's right for them. There is nothing bad about lesser quality & cost for one who uses their knives only on occassional outings but for those who are professionals or use their knives on a daily basis, higher quality & the prices that go with it can be justified. Of course collectables are another matter.

I began producing my TRACKER (also known as the WSK) again after the release of "The Hunted" and was running pretty well but I had some health issues which had caught up to me & I had to stop until things could be corrected. I know there are many who are wondering what's up? Well I had a neck fusion done last year for two herniated disks. Probably caused from my insane workouts & lunatic wilderness escapades in my younger years. That healed up just fine but now I need to have corrective surgery for a bad case of carpel tunnel in both wrists from years of knifemaking. It's gotten to the point where I can only make simpler knives as a hobby but I hope to raise the finances needed for surgery after the new years. Depending how that goes, we'll take it from there.
So there you go. I know there have been alot of rumors running around out there. Where did I go? I have even heard I had caught illness & died.
Na! Still here and ornery as ever & going nuts not making many knives but hopefully that'll change soon. Thanks for inquiring.

David R. Beck
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I am not sure why you want to discuss again or what would be the point since it seems to me you have posted in the other threads where these issues have alreay beed discussed.
 
LSkylizard,

Bartman2 started the thread after he and I talked about a threat of lawsuit I am faced with from Tom Brown. I am not sure what his motivation was but since starting the thread he was banned for some comments on another thread so he will be unable to respond to you. FYI the Bartman2 has fallen and can not get up.lol

Interesting posts. I don't know how you quote other threads into others but neat trick.

I have seen the information you posted and talked with Dave about our knife. I could not remember where I read that information.
 
redscorpion6 said:
LSkylizard,

Bartman2 started the thread after he and I talked about a threat of lawsuit I am faced with from Tom Brown. I am not sure what his motivation was but since starting the thread he was banned for some comments on another thread so he will be unable to respond to you. FYI the Bartman2 has fallen and can not get up.lol

Interesting posts. I don't know how you quote other threads into others but neat trick.

I have seen the information you posted and talked with Dave about our knife. I could not remember where I read that information.
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My Good guess that your broken a few eggs...To a popular Knife Maker;)
Popular Knife Maker good friend of Tom Brown...ass all!:thumbdn:
redscorpion6 you just move on man, good luck:thumbup:

Mark
 
Thanks for the support.
I think we have done well. I have received glowing reviews for customers.
 
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