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zignal_zero

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are there any members, here, who have been charged with ANY weapons related crime? if the case is old enough and you're comfortable, please let us know the circumstances and outcome.
 
there have been several that have posted over the years, many first time posters due to their arrest....
 
To answer the OP, no charges, but I can relate my personal experiences..
I've had contact with law enforcement, all were traffic related. Each time (a total of 3)
I was legally carrying a pistol. I always do what my dad (retired officer) taught me, pull over when safe, turn off the car, place keys on the dash, turn on the dome light, roll down the windows, and hands on the dash. I've always been polite throughout the stop.

Everytime the officer was concerned about the pistol, and what ever I was stopped for.
I've always had a knife clipped to my pocket and haven't been asked about it. One time I had the gun in the glovebox, along with my registration and insurance. I told the officer that my info was in the glovebox with the pistol, and would he like to open it to secure the gun. He replied that if I was law abiding enough to legally carry, then I wouldn't be lying about insurance. I received verbal warnings each time.

I suppose that if circumstances were different, had I been drunk, had took off, run someone off the road,or maybe even looked "sketchy" the fact that I had a knife might have been a bigger deal.
 
Sure Funny story......

In Denmark (where i live ) you cant really carry anything longer than 7,5 cm long and only if it is a non lockable folder, ergo no fixedblades either ..

Febuary 2008 i am at my friends house where drinking and cleaning his yard ......the cops show up , approach me, decides to search me, they find one 9.5 cm fixed blade and arrest me ( i am drunk but on my friends front lawn)
I spend around 18 hours in a holding cell then i am questioned and the idiot cop (i will be back to that later) tell me that i need to sign a decleration stating my guilt(the penalty being aprox 1000 usd)

and i will be released, i am held for a couple of hours and released after 21-22 hours ..

Oh yeah the fucking pig called my mother and my employer to tell them that i was walking around at nigth with weapons on me looking for trouble ..my mother told him to fuck off..
I have since lost my hunting license and had to dispose of my firearms etc. ASAP

I plead not guilty and the case was tried in april 2009 (yup more than a year later)
I was acquitted because the law dont apply on private property (my friends lawn)

I got my knife back today, as far as getting my hunting license back i have heard nothing
so far .......

the police claim they were there because of a diffrernt kinfe related issue
 
bummer, man :-( a real TRUE LIFE story of the whole - 'wrongly charged, but put through hell anyway' that people always theorize about. thank you for sharing and glad to hear they finally cleared you.
 
I actually lost my job to ( but i did not like it anyway )
The cops just did not like me being drunk and carrying a knife, i guess
what i am most amazed about is the time they took to try to ruin my life
I meen calling around ,detaining me almost the max time allowed .. back then(last year) it was a small crime punishble by fine only .

Now it is mandatory 7 days in prison. by the end of the year a new law will come into effect with a mandatory minimum of 6 months For the previous mentioned knife offence..
 
I was arrested in 01 for carrying a Buck Strider folder on a college campus I attended and lived at the dorms. Shelled out for a lawyer. I knew my knife didn't violate any state laws. The lawyer did too. My case was dismissed.
 
I haven't personally had any problems but my cousin bought a butterfly knife at a flea market without knowing they were illegal where he lived. I'll fully agree with anyone that says it is not an excuse.

He was pulled over and the LE saw it sitting in his back seat. (also not smart) He was arrested, had to pay considerable fines and had to complete quite a bit of community service.

All in all his life was screwed up pretty bad and he still has not fully recovered from even the immediate consequences of his illegal weapons charge. I don't study law but he had just turned to adult age and I assume this charge will haunt him for the rest of his life. Really sad because he is not a "bad guy" and is otherwise a law abiding type as far as I know.
 
Charlie Mike said:
I was arrested in 01 for carrying a Buck Strider folder on a college campus I attended and lived at the dorms. Shelled out for a lawyer. I knew my knife didn't violate any state laws. The lawyer did too. My case was dismissed.
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Who found your Buck and under what circumstances was it found? Did you let the pocket clip show or did you show it off to your dorm roomies and they turned you in? This is why we all should practice concealment techniques until they become second-nature. We should start a separate thread just for that!;)
 
i had a friends father ( he is a lawyer ) tell me to get rid of a knife i was carrying ( it was a Ruko Tanto point folder blade was 4 inches long) he told me to get rid of it when i showed him i could flip it open without touching the blade and he got kinda ticked, i told him to try and do it and he couldent all in all he thought i had used the thumb stud to open it and luckily he knows nothing about knives so he let me off the hook :)

Richard winter
 
wow, this is awakening, thank you guys for your input. i've always wondered how much of the paranoia was simply that. apparently, there truly are legitimate risks to not strictly adhering to knife laws

i know that might sound odd coming from someone who ARRESTS people for breaking the law, but the truth is - in all my years of LE, i've only charged ONE person with a weapons violation and he was asking for a ride to jail. most of my LE friends have NEVER arrested anybody on a weapons charge. then again, we work in a redneck environment.
 
zignal_zero said:
wow, this is awakening, thank you guys for your input. i've always wondered how much of the paranoia was simply that. apparently, there truly are legitimate risks to not strictly adhering to knife laws

i know that might sound odd coming from someone who ARRESTS people for breaking the law, but the truth is - in all my years of LE, i've only charged ONE person with a weapons violation and he was asking for a ride to jail. most of my LE friends have NEVER arrested anybody on a weapons charge. then again, we work in a redneck environment.
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I've been carrying blades for decades, both legal and illegal, and never been caught or even questioned. There is something to be said for proper concealment and not giving the police a reason to look your direction in the first place. Many LEOs I've talked to have confirmed my hypothesis: 99% of weapon charges arise out of arrests for other criminal behavior. There is that last 1% which seem to float to the top though.
 
Thirty-some-odd years ago I was arrested for assaulting three police officers with a deadly weapon. The weapon was a blackjack I had taken off of one of them while he was striking me about the head and shoulders with it during a scuffle. The scene got real nasty and real bloody real fast. I was arrested at gun point and charged with several felonies. Back in those days the police didn't shoot you for no reason and the whole situation got resolved in court - I dropped my police brutality lawsuit and they dropped the felonies, allowing me to cop to a misdemeanor assault charge. Cost me a small fortune though. Ironically, one of the cops became a really good friend after he left the force and became a private investigator - we used to bust on each other like "I should have buried you when I had the chance." :)
 
i've never been charged with a weapons violation, which is really what i was wondering about: plead down, dropped, convicted, etc. however, i was hitchiking (in my car-less youth) and had a Deputy do a "field contact" just to run me for warrants and all. i was wearing a decent size fixed blade (OWB), but it was behind my strong side hip and my jacket was covering the handle. he asked "do you have any concealed weapons on you" i said "i have a knife, but it's not concealed" he asked "then where is it?" i made sure to lift my jacket up (with both hands) before turning around. he just held on to it, while he ran my ID, then gave it back and told me to have a nice day. by strict letter of the law, i was committing an arrestable misdemeanor. however, the fact that i was not up to any "buggery" trumped that fact.
 
I've been charged, but never convicted of any...

Case #1: I was helping a friend remove tree stumps and brush, and this included using a machete in his front yard. A neighbor called the police and didn't mention any yardwork, only somebody wielding a machete. Cops show up, see me working, and ask what was going on. I told them, showed them the big pile of debris, and had my friend let them know as well. Officer #1 asks if I have any weapons on me. I said no, but that I have a few cutting tolls (Leatherman, machete, Spyderco Delica). He asked me to lay them on the ground, then he told me how I could be charged with carrying a concealed weapon for each of them (the Leatherman was in my pocket and not a sheath; the machete was slung over my back, and the Spyderco was clipped to my pocket). He "let me off" with a warning.

Case #2: I was out hiking alone. A park ranger (not a sworn LEO) came and asked what I was doing. "Just enjoying the day" wasn't good enough, and he asked if I had any guns or knives on me. I asked what he was talking about, and he said I can't bring a knife or gun onto the property (wrong). I said that I have a pocket knife, and it's in my pocket. He explained that because he couldn't see it, it was concealed and he was calling the police. I told him to have a nice day and left the park. Apparently, he gave my vehicle's plate number and an officer pulled me over (no lights or sirens) to inquire. I told him what happened, and he asked for my knife. I told him that I needed a receipt, and he scribbled something on a sheet of paper and handed it to me. I called his dispatch, and they said there was nothing they could do. They told me I was lucky not to be in jail for possession of a concealed weapon and trespassing.

Case #3: I was pulled over for running a stop sign (I did it) and had my pistol on me. I kept my hands in sight and told the officer that I had it as well as my permit. He asked for the permit, my DL, proof of insurance, and what kind of gun it was. He got it all. He went to run my information, and when he returned with the traffic ticket he said "You can go, but I hope you don't have hollow points in there. They're illegal." I thanked him, and he wanted to see what ammunition I was carrying (Speer Gold Dots in 124 gr.) He saw, and he wasn't happy. I explained that nowhere in ORC prohibits hollow point ammunition, but he kept insisting they were illegal. I asked for a supervisor, who showed up and explained that although hollow points aren't illegal, I could be arrested for, and I quote, "resisting the officer's word".
 
JNieporte said:
I've been charged, but never convicted of any...

Case #1: I was helping a friend remove tree stumps and brush, and this included using a machete in his front yard. A neighbor called the police and didn't mention any yardwork, only somebody wielding a machete. Cops show up, see me working, and ask what was going on. I told them, showed them the big pile of debris, and had my friend let them know as well. Officer #1 asks if I have any weapons on me. I said no, but that I have a few cutting tolls (Leatherman, machete, Spyderco Delica). He asked me to lay them on the ground, then he told me how I could be charged with carrying a concealed weapon for each of them (the Leatherman was in my pocket and not a sheath; the machete was slung over my back, and the Spyderco was clipped to my pocket). He "let me off" with a warning.

Case #2: I was out hiking alone. A park ranger (not a sworn LEO) came and asked what I was doing. "Just enjoying the day" wasn't good enough, and he asked if I had any guns or knives on me. I asked what he was talking about, and he said I can't bring a knife or gun onto the property (wrong). I said that I have a pocket knife, and it's in my pocket. He explained that because he couldn't see it, it was concealed and he was calling the police. I told him to have a nice day and left the park. Apparently, he gave my vehicle's plate number and an officer pulled me over (no lights or sirens) to inquire. I told him what happened, and he asked for my knife. I told him that I needed a receipt, and he scribbled something on a sheet of paper and handed it to me. I called his dispatch, and they said there was nothing they could do. They told me I was lucky not to be in jail for possession of a concealed weapon and trespassing.

Case #3: I was pulled over for running a stop sign (I did it) and had my pistol on me. I kept my hands in sight and told the officer that I had it as well as my permit. He asked for the permit, my DL, proof of insurance, and what kind of gun it was. He got it all. He went to run my information, and when he returned with the traffic ticket he said "You can go, but I hope you don't have hollow points in there. They're illegal." I thanked him, and he wanted to see what ammunition I was carrying (Speer Gold Dots in 124 gr.) He saw, and he wasn't happy. I explained that nowhere in ORC prohibits hollow point ammunition, but he kept insisting they were illegal. I asked for a supervisor, who showed up and explained that although hollow points aren't illegal, I could be arrested for, and I quote, "resisting the officer's word".
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in my area, we had a misinformed instructor convince an ENTIRE class of new recruits that "Black Talon" ammo was restricted to LEO only because (get this) "they're capable of penetrating body armor" so, a rookie jacks up a buddy of mine who happens to be a physics major (and, now, Navy Seal) who explains to the (new) cop they're designed for EXPANSION which means THEY SUCK for shooting through armor lol

ETA - i just reread your post and don't see where you were actually charged with anything? you were, however, the victim of a THEFT which is awful :-(
 
TOM1960 said:
Who found your Buck and under what circumstances was it found? Did you let the pocket clip show or did you show it off to your dorm roomies and they turned you in? This is why we all should practice concealment techniques until they become second-nature. We should start a separate thread just for that!;)
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The cops who I used to work for doing video surveillance and dispatch (campus dept) arrested me. I guess I was flirting with another dorm resident who told her boyfriend. He told the cops I had a gun in my dorm. All they found was a knife but didn't want to look dumb and tried to pursue what they did have. The knife was legal to have on a CSU campus... so that made my Buck the most expensive production knife ever :D
 
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