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Belonophobia
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Regarding "Head Cheese" - you do not know what you are talking about. It is very good when made at home (and dietary or dietetic?? as well). For those in southern TX I can give you directions where to get the best one in US.
BTW - Costas, could you check my signature and try to translate it into English for me (off line)?
David
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Is there other source on line?
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[This message has been edited by David1967 (edited 01-04-2000).]
BTW - Costas, could you check my signature and try to translate it into English for me (off line)?
David
To search for unknown word I use http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary
Is there other source on line?
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DIVERTI NESCIO
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My photos
[This message has been edited by David1967 (edited 01-04-2000).]
Hello Hugh!
I have finally solved the "hoplon" mystery.
So, my learned friends have found out that all shields were called "aspides" (plural, or "aspis" singular) but there were certain types of them, one of them called "hoplon". This was the largest of all, covering the soldier from chin to toe. Other types of "aspis" (different size, different material) were: itea, viotiki, pelti, etc.
From a historical point of view, it is true that there is a particular type of "aspis" (shield) that was called a "hoplon", but from a linguistic point of view, "hoplon" always had (and still has) the generic meaning of "weapon" where "aspis" always carried the meaning of "shield" (used in the same general way as e.g. "vaccination is the shield from illness" or "the Air Force is the shield of our airspace").
Thanks again for an interesting thread!
Costas
I have finally solved the "hoplon" mystery.
So, my learned friends have found out that all shields were called "aspides" (plural, or "aspis" singular) but there were certain types of them, one of them called "hoplon". This was the largest of all, covering the soldier from chin to toe. Other types of "aspis" (different size, different material) were: itea, viotiki, pelti, etc.
From a historical point of view, it is true that there is a particular type of "aspis" (shield) that was called a "hoplon", but from a linguistic point of view, "hoplon" always had (and still has) the generic meaning of "weapon" where "aspis" always carried the meaning of "shield" (used in the same general way as e.g. "vaccination is the shield from illness" or "the Air Force is the shield of our airspace").
Thanks again for an interesting thread!
Costas
And thank you, Costas, for your patience. I hope that I did not come across as a "know-it-all" foreigner, from across an ocean, yet, telling a Greek about things Greek. I was genuinely confused,as what you had said disagreed with all of my military history books. It was very disturbing!
To any and all interested in classical Greek history, there is a great book out about the battle of Thermopylae, "Gates of Fire" by Steven Pressfield. This is one of the great, heroic foundational stories of western culture. "Go and tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here obedient to their laws we lie."
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Walk in the Light,
Hugh Fuller
To any and all interested in classical Greek history, there is a great book out about the battle of Thermopylae, "Gates of Fire" by Steven Pressfield. This is one of the great, heroic foundational stories of western culture. "Go and tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here obedient to their laws we lie."
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Walk in the Light,
Hugh Fuller