Benchmade 710 problem.

Out of the last 4 benchmade products I have bought all but one had the same issue. The only one that was perfect was their Chinese made Vex. That's very concerning to me personally. I don't know how hard it should be to make sure the product is fit before it leaves. Sure I have tape, sure I have loctite and know how to use them both. But, I shouldn't have to. Just my 2 cents.

This is friendly discussion not argument (or worse) - but I disagree. Anything that can be screwed in can be unscrewed. I suppose someone could develop a nylock type female pivot, but the volume isn't there, I'd guess. Once it's set up, it's done. As others have mentioned, this is a very common situation - I'd hesitate to say "issue." It isn't a question of fitting the product before it leaves. The pivot screw will very often back out in ordinary use.
 
The BMs are made there - except for much of the Red Box line - which has been dropped this year. Some of those models are still available in their H-D and HK catalogs.

BM uses blue Loctite on all screws. Sometimes they miss one - or more - check the other screws, too. Their 'Blue Box' toolkit, or Kershaw's keychain kit, will have the required T6 & T10 sizes. If you need to remove a blue Loctited screw, rather than twisting the little Torxx wrench in a knot, try the heat from a clean/dry 25-30 Watt soldering pencil's point applied to said screw's head for 5-10 seconds first. That 'breaks' blue Loctite's bond, allowing easier removal. I learned this when removing my BMs' clip screws. To secure, literally, a toothpick's point teeny drop is sufficient. If you don't clean the 'old' off the pivot screw, it will hold pretty well for some time.

BMs can come out so dull that external heat is required to cut butter. My first, a 551 seven years back, and my second, a 201 over two years ago, were in such a state 'out of the box' new. I bought twelve more last year - some from '04 - old models/old stock - all were quite sharp. One, a 670 Apparition, came less the handle screws under the clip! Great CS resulted in more screws - including clip screws I boogered before I learned the 'heat' trick. BM's are now a sickness here... gotta get to the pusher's... bye, now!

Stainz
 
This is friendly discussion not argument (or worse) - but I disagree. Anything that can be screwed in can be unscrewed. I suppose someone could develop a nylock type female pivot, but the volume isn't there, I'd guess. Once it's set up, it's done. As others have mentioned, this is a very common situation - I'd hesitate to say "issue." It isn't a question of fitting the product before it leaves. The pivot screw will very often back out in ordinary use.

...and I was not arguing, I was merely stating my opinion. I just find it disappointing to get excited about a (new to me) manufacturer (Benchmade) and have my first several purchases have the exact same issue, and yes, I call it an issue. I am not talking about pivots that loosened after use, I am talking straight out of the box. We can certainly agree to disagree. :)

Still, very excited to acquire more Benchmade products. The new Bone Collector looks like a must have for me.
 
The first thing I do when I get a knife is loc-tite the pivot (with just the right amount of tension), center the blade, re-shape the clip, and remove the thumbstuds.
Then they sit for a day.

You can't expect everything to be perfect out of the box.
 
We can certainly agree to disagree. :)

For sure. :thumbup:

But I do think it is inherent in the design. It's like the difference between the CRK Sebenza design and the CRK Umnumzaan. The Seb needs no loctite because you can crank down the pivot screw tight on the bushing, while the Umnu needs loctite because (like Emersons, Benchmades, etc.) too much torque will clamp the blade and too little will give you sideplay.
 
For sure. :thumbup:

But I do think it is inherent in the design. It's like the difference between the CRK Sebenza design and the CRK Umnumzaan. The Seb needs no loctite because you can crank down the pivot screw tight on the bushing, while the Umnu needs loctite because (like Emersons, Benchmades, etc.) too much torque will clamp the blade and too little will give you sideplay.

Well there's always a trade off on anything. It's not like I can't live with it, and fix it for that matter. I just tend to be a bit anal that way. :)

Still, I am happy as can be with my new Grip. Can't wait to get my hands on that BC. :D
 
Is it me, or are the BM designs converging around some single design idea? The Grips and the BCs and the Rifts and....? BM certainly knows how to design a great knife with great ergos. If you check my sig line at the BM forums you can see that I'm not shy about buying BM knives. However, many of them are beginning to look very similar to me.
 
Is it me, or are the BM designs converging around some single design idea? The Grips and the BCs and the Rifts and....? BM certainly knows how to design a great knife with great ergos. If you check my sig line at the BM forums you can see that I'm not shy about buying BM knives. However, many of them are beginning to look very similar to me.

Is it just me or is this a pretty serious thread hijack? You may be better off starting your own thread on this if it interest you.

My opinion, no they don't look the same to me. I can think of three companies off the top of my head that are much more guilty of that.
 
I think that you should send the 710 back in to Benchmade. Their customer service is great and they are very accomodating.
 
I got my brand new 710 in the mail on Monday and when i took it out of the box and gave it a few flicks open i noticed that the blade had a nice bit of side to side play in it. So i checked the pivit screw and it was worked out ALOT so much so that i could see the threads. So i tightened it to my liking and it still works out after just a few flicks open. Anyone else have this problem out of the box? :confused:

Yes, about one in three BM knives that I have purchased recently have this problem and various other problems, and you will find similar reports on this forum and other forums. I own more BM knives (Blue Class) than any other brand. IMO BM designs and materials are good, but their quality control has become so spotty that I am reluctant to buy anymore.
 
Nah I'd rather not wait to send it in(impatient haha) . This was my first Benchmade so I think I just got a little disappointed at first rather than thinking about the fact that it really is a simple fix. So if I find anything else wrong in use THEN I'll send it in.
 
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