Benchmade 806 or Camillus CUDA Maxx 5.5?

I too prefer a lockback, but the axis is a solid lock system in my experience. If my post seemed negative, I apologize. Its just that I have never heard of anyone accidently disengaging an axis. Ive not had any problems with either style of lock, so I cant say personally. I think that is more of Cliff's department.
 
if ya worry about axis locks disengaing all ya gotta do is grind down the button flush w/the handle with a dremel, that would eliminate that problem imho.

back a few yrs ago when cris carraci (the designer of the AFCK series for BM) used to post here he thought the old liner lock AFCKs were better for SD than the axis lock for this very reason. personally i have never had a problem with this on my 806/710/etc. guess it could happen though.
 
Benchmade still makes the 812 AFCK which is a liner lock. I have owned all the afck's from the 800 on. The other issue with the 806, for me, is the fact it uses steel liners in order to incorporate the axis lock. This makes the knife feel very off balance to me.

My overall point of view on any lock is that any lock can fail. Some designs take less to fail than others. That being said, a knife used with in it's design limitations will almost always perform without any malfunction on the part of the lock.

By the way, I also managed to get a SIFU to disengage the same way.
 
Came in to this discussion late, but....

Doesn't Wilson Tactical make a 3 or 4" version of the D.Ralph piece? That might solve your blade length issue.

While I like lockbacks, I've found that, except for my Delica which opens perfectly every time, other lockbacks I've owned often are not as reliable opening due to pocket lint. Never had a problem lock-wise with an Axis.
 
sometimes ya can get a sifu to disengage by simply engaging it lol.

i also like the AFCK's, used to be my edc, have had a few of them, a few yrs back when NGK was selling them for about $60 imho that was the best deal for a SD knife around. though i prefer the axis AFCK i have never had a liner prob w/a 800.
 
Dirk said:
Benchmade still makes the 812 AFCK which is a liner lock.

No, they make it no more - it was DC'd long time ago. Its follower, the 814 was DC'd 2003 also.

Dirk said:
My overall point of view on any lock is that any lock can fail. Some designs take less to fail than others. That being said, a knife used with in it's design limitations will almost always perform without any malfunction on the part of the lock.

I agree.

But can't understand, how can one disengage an axislock in 806 - the handle's design leaves not many possibilities to do it.

And what an axis furthermore can, You can see here:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359579

if You haven't seen it yet ;)


On topic - I would take an 806. MAXX is too big for me and I don't like its handle. I can't get a secure grip on it.
 
812 no longer made. Tells you how long it's been since I really looked at BM's catalog. I thought they were still made cause I always seemed to see them on ebay.

I disengaged the 806 when my thumb was at the side of the knife while I was transitioning to a different grip. Next thing I know, the blade drops and kisses my finger. Fortunately, the way the blade is ground, the edge doesn't make easy contact if the blade closes on your hand.

The axis design is a sound one. I have taken a couple of them apart. I guess if the 806 felt better in my hand than it does. I would have modified the lock studs so I wouldn't be able to easily hit them with my thumb as I did. And would have continued to carry it. One day I might get a wild hair and try one again.
 
Dirk said:
I disengaged the 806 when my thumb was at the side of the knife while I was transitioning to a different grip.

Well, so a little more exercise should eliminate such problems :thumbup:


JK ;) :D
 
:D :D I'd go for the CUDA Maxx 5.5. It is one of the BEST self-defense folders on the market. Also, Quik Flix CANNOT go off in your pocket. The Quik Flix does allow you to open this knife VERY quickly! :D :D
 
I have the Cuda Maxx 7 and love the grip and feel of it. The Cuda Maxx 5.5 is on the top of my wish list. It will not open in your pocket, but will open very easily when you want it to. When you wave it open, it is very intimidating indeed.

I have a Benchmade Skirmish 630 which I also like a lot and it has a great feel in my hand. The Skirmish does have a very big clip, which draws more attention than I like and will not allow you to attach a lanyard to it.
 
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