Benchmade butter knife

Me too. I like buying from Internet dealers, but I don't think I would do that with a Benchmade after reading these posts. It's not a terrible problem for me, however, because I've yet to come across a Benchmade I would want. Their styling doesn't really appeal to me. Just personal preference.

Actually, on second thought, the Pardue Gentlemen's Folder is rather nice...

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I have a BM 710 Axis lock and it came hair poppin sharp!! I also have a BM Ascent and it came pretty sharp, it would pull the hair a little as it cut it off. When I started to resharpen both knives it took a looonngggg time. I had to reprofile the edges of both knives. With the 710 I used Joe Talmadge's FAQ. What a difference it made. Now when the 710 needs to be touched up out comes the 204 sharpmaker and a couple of swipes later its good as new. The Ascent was a different story.
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I had to GRIND that knife down! The edge geometry was not right. Once I reprofiled the edge its a really nice knife. But I dont think I should have to reprofile a knife the first time I sharpen it. I love my BMs. But I think that their QC could use a little work. I have called the customer service department. I talked to Travis. He treated me like I was the only phone call he had all day. The treatment that I have recieved from BM is outstanding.

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Shawn R Sullivan
 
When I got my AFCK I thought the problem was ATS-34! I thought that the steel was just crap. But, Razor's Edge Pro kit and their sharpening book remedied that! My AFCK is ALWAYS HAIR POPPING SHARP! I will still look at Benchmade products in the future, because their construction (based on my knife) is awesome. If they want to improve as a company, they know how to do it though!

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I bought a Spyderco Native and a Benchmade 710 at the same time. The Spyderco was way sharper than the 710 out of the box than the 710 and sharpened on the Spyderco Sharpmaker with no problems. After sharpening the 710 on the Sharpmaker the bevels came out very uneven, one side was twice as large as the other, and it took forever to get the edge to meet. I sent it back to Benchmade with a detailed description of what I had done and they just sharpened it and sent it back. It came back duller than I had sent it to them. I ran in through the sharpmaker after marking the bevels with a sharpie marker and at the 20 degree angle it was removing metal at the top of the bevel and not the edge. On the other side it was removing metal at the top of the bevel near the back and then evenly at the center and then on the edge near the front. I contacted BM and they are going to replace the blade. I will give them credit for standing by their product.

I wonder if they have a problem sharpening the recurve blade? Also I think they have more than one person sharpening the blades since they are all sharpened by "hand", so maybe some are better at it than others.




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off topic sort of, but one of my friends took a butter knife and with patience and time put a bitter edge on it, he also reworked the tip inot a tanto chisle ground point, and all this was done on a diamond stone. It was interesting to see the expression of the culinary instructor who had let him play with this butter knife.

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Johan
your description fits my 710 exactly. One shoulder is higher than another and the angles of each bevel are not eqaul. The blade was initial sharp enough to sort of scrap of the hair on my arms, but nowhere near spyderco or coldsteel sharpness. Due to my milited knowledge on knives, I kept putting my BM 710 through Sharpmaker with no good effects for a long time until I found this forum. Have learnt a lot from you guys.
But this put me off from buying Pardue Axis. I'm trying to locate a shop that still carry Spyderco diamon sleaves. Wonder if a Lansky system would work on recurve blades?
 
So is it now politically incorrect to expect a bloody CUTTING tool to come to the consumer ready to cut?
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Sharpen the darned thing, Shawn?
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A really sharp knife is too expensive to produce, ZUT&ZUT?
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Good Grief!
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Should one lay down a hundred bucks for a cutting tool and not be able to cut with the tool until one gets the thing home to sharpen it?
Well, does that sound a little ridiculous or what?
Now, don't get me wrong, I expect to have to sharpen a knife, eventually, and I have no problem at all with that.
However, when I buy the thing, I might very well be heading out of town and I may want or need to use that knife while out and about and I should be able to rely on the thing to cut when I need it to cut. After all, I just laid down a good chunk-o-change on the knife, didn't I? Is asking for it to be sharp out of the box asking too much?
ZUT&ZUT, I think your choice of analogy was an unfortunate one. I won't go over it again as russ covered it adequately. Suffice it to say that when one pays a large sum of money for a knife, it should at least be useable, I would think.

BTW I used this particular example about going out of town because I have done just that before and if that knife was dull when I went to use it, I would have been furious to say the least.
That's why I like to buy from a knife store. I can be assured that the knife I buy is going to work the first time I need it to work without the added chore of sharpening before use or possibly failing from some fault or another. I've already inspected it on site.
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This is my choice and it works quite well for me as I'm an instant gratification kind of guy when it comes to knives.
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If it's stupid but works, then it isn't stupid!
 
For the most part, my BM's have been sharp out of the box. An exception was my first one, a Panther, which I easily corrected. (the blade being G-2 may have contributed to the ease of sharpening). Some of the edges, like on my AFCK, 350, etc., have come very thin and sharp; others, though sharp, are relatively thick.

Regarding knives not needing to be sharp out of the box...IMO that is like buying a brand-new car without air in the tires.
Jim
 
Maybe one solution if you're buying off the Internet, is find a Dealer you like, and others here trust. We've got some really good ones, and ask them to inspect the knife before they ship it out. That's not really a lot to ask, and I sure would feel more confident about ordering from them again.

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I think it's pretty ridiculous that you should have to spend that much money on a knife and get a lousy edge. It's also much easier to maintain a good edge also.
This is one of my pet peeves.
 
TD,
A Lansky will work great using their medium and fine serrated stones. Use these on my Ontario soft beak machetes with great results.
 
Quite some time ago I ran across a nice sentence, could have been my bosses motto:

I've made up my mind, so please do not disturb me with facts.

No knife can be (factory-)sharpened in such a way as to please everybody for every task. So if you don't like them, go buy them somewhere else, where they are cheaper, better and lasting longer.
If you found that perfect outlet, please let me know. I'll switch immediately.

Good hunting.
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ZUT&ZUT,
May I point you to the "Good, Bad & Ugly Forum" I don't think anyone is perfect, but there are a lot of Dealers that want and deserve your business and are more than willing to go the extra mile to make sure you're happy.
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"Will work 4 Knives!"
 
I really liked the spikes and mini spikes, and would have bought one except for this complaint that I have heard here over and over. It would seem that their business would pick up somewhat if they would improve their QC. But I guess if they are selling enough knives, they don't need to change.

Brandon
 
That's one of a few reasons that I purged my collections of BM's. The fit and grinds are off on the majority of the ones I pick up. I just switched to other quality minded manufacturers.

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Lead,follow, or get the hell out of the way!
 
That's one of a few reasons that I purged my collections of BM's. The fit and grinds are off on the majority of the ones I pick up. I just switched to other quality minded manufacturers.

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Lead,follow, or get the hell out of the way!
 
I have precisely one BM - a 705 Axis lock that I bought last October. The edge came very sharp and has stayed that way with only a light touch-up with a 204 sharpmaker. They quality is very good, after reading these posts I double-checked and the bevels are fine. It became and has remained my daily carry knife.

For what it's worth, I bought it at a gun show so I got to look and handle it before buying.

It's the only BM I have because generally their style doesn't do much for me. But I love this mini-Axis.
 
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