Benchmade h2o grip vs spyderco pacific salt...

Surfingringo said:
Hey Don, I sent benchmade an email back then and got a response. They told me the only thing in the bm made of non corrosive metal is the blade. I don't think it would have worked out for me as well as the salt has. I think spydercos version of a saltwater knife is a bit more "serious" than benchmades.
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Maybe I should get a folder :D



I just got the Spydie Warrior, so it might be a bit before I get to test it out. At least it won't corrode till then :p.

Caspian Salt is fantastic. One of the more underrated knives that came and went too fast.
 
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TEFL0N_D0N_81 said:
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Maybe I should get a folder :D


I just got the Spydie Warrior, so it might be a bit before I get to test it out. At least it won't corrode till then :p.

Caspian Salt is fantastic. One of the more underrated knives that came and went too fast.
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Yup, I could see mounting a sheath to the sidewall of my kayak for a caspian. I like the finger hole so you can drop the knife and do something else without actually "dropping" it.
 
Surfingringo said:
Yup, I could see mounting a sheath to the sidewall of my kayak for a caspian. I like the finger hole so you can drop the knife and do something else without actually "dropping" it.
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I find it handy, but takes some getting used to. The finger hole is big, so it's a lot friendlier for gloves. It's also a little bit handle heavy, so the blade won't swing left and right as easy to inadvertently hit something else. If you're grabbing anything horizontal and upward, there's no problem at all. If you're trying to grab something else downward, it can be done with some caution.

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It can be good for diving, snorkeling, or even a spur of the moment grabbing a fishing rod while cutting something :p.
 
Spyderco Pacific Salt has no metal liners. Although I like it because it is basically an Endura 3.
 
They're both excellent knives.

Ive got the H20 Griptilian with the X15-TN steel, but the new Griptilian H20's come with a N680 blade. The X-15 is practically rustproof, but N680 resists rust extremely well. Ive got the 110H20 dive knife mounted on my weightbelt, where its my back-up spearfishing knife. The N680 steel has not showed any signs of corrosion yet.

Back to the Griptilian...it has 420J liners which in addition to being VERY rust resistant adds strength to the knife. The screws and clip are polished stainless. Ive used mine as a saltwater fishing knife and ive brought it along on some snorkelling trips. Ive rinsed it under the tap once i got home, and there hasnt been a single speck of rust on it yet. I absolutely love the axis lock, which is tough and ambidextrous.

The Spyderco Salt series are rustproof. Period. The knives do not have any liners though, which could be a pro or con depending on your views. H1 edge retention is not as good as X15 or N680 though. Also, if my memory serves me right, i recall the Salts being riveted together, which means that the knife can not be taken apart. Rivet construction also means, that you cant adjust bladeplay, etc.

I think theyre both excellent knives and to be honest, you cant go wrong with either of them.
 
TEFL0N_D0N_81 said:
Nice Jump Master. Looks like it's getting reprofiled towards the tip for some plain edge.
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Thanks, it really is a great knife. I didn't reprofile it. As a matter of fact, I've never had to sharpen it, cause the edge retention on fully serrated H1 blades is just insane. I recall reading that the serrations on the Jumpmaster had the highest rc ever tested by Spyderco.

Anyways, all fully serrated Spyderco's have a little part near the tip, that's plain ground.

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The newer salts have an adjustable pivot now. The edge holding isnt good at all but for cutting fishing line and bait it works just fine. I bought the knife strictly for corrosion resistance not edge holding ability. However, because the steel is "work hardened", the serrated models offer some of the best, if not THE best edge retention among any serrated knife spyderco offers.
 
I like both Benchmades and Spydercos, but in this case I definitely prefer the Salt. The Salt series knives have become my main EDC knives over time. And I prefer serrated H1. In a case like this, simplicity is better. And I've taken Salts into the sea with no problems...just rinse out the grit. Being wet will make the action feel less snappy, but IMO that's caused by the FRN temporarily swelling from the water. Once it's completely dried out, the "walk" action returns to normal.

Jim
 
I have one of the old Pacific Salt knives with the rivets and it has developed some blade play over time (I think I've had it for two years now). The newer ones are screwed together so blade play shouldn't be a problem anymore. Other than that, the knife has been great. It's the only knife I'll take fishing, to the river, lake, or beach, and even just to the pool.

I also have a 550hg Griptilian and for some reason it just feels stronger. But I really don't need a stronger knife, when I choose to use a Griptilian it's because the rounder handles are more comfortable or because I just feel like messing around with the axis lock.
 
My M4 Griptilian went for a two and a half hour swim in the Atlantic ocean. No rust anywhere, I think as long as you dry it off after your excursion it would be fine. And unlike the Spyderco, it's a breeze to disassemble and reassemble.
 
Surfingringo said:
Just trying to decide between these knives. Knife will see hard use and a lot of ocean time. Spyderco seems to have the edge in rust proof and benchmade in edge retention. My question is whether either of these two is more "rugged" than the other. Just thought I would ask here as maybe some of you have used/owned both. Thanks in advance.

Lance
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I know you are a big fan of the H1 Dragonfly (which I plan on getting soon), but I'm gonna have to say Griptilian on this one. I don't own either, but I've used both. If you are like me, you'd expect the pacific salt to feel like an endura in hand. To me, it didn't. It was actually uncomfortable, in comparison to the nearly perfect endura handle. On the other hand, the Griptilian (just the full size) is one of the only Benchmades that even slightly fit my hand. I know ergonomics aren't everything, but when you need to use the knife quick or repeatedly it is important.

As another note, I prefer a back lock. Yes, I know that the Axis is stronger. But, especially in water, I like the snappier and sturdier spring in a back lock.

I actually prefer the blade shape of the Pacific Salt, but that's person to person/use to use.

Well, after writing all that I think I'm split. I would probably get a griptilian for the handle and better edge retention. But I still love Spyderco linerless back locks, and don't think you could go wrong with the Pacific Salt.
 
TotalDbag said:
My M4 Griptilian went for a two and a half hour swim in the Atlantic ocean. No rust anywhere, I think as long as you dry it off after your excursion it would be fine. And unlike the Spyderco, it's a breeze to disassemble and reassemble.
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:rolleyes: Send me that m4 grip and let me kayak fish with it for a month and see how that tool steel likes it. I want some m4 bad! Probably the gayle Bradley. But it's not the right steel for this job. Hell, i fished a couple of days with my bd-1 manix which is supposed to be highly corrosion resistant and it was covered in little rust spots at the end of each trip. After surf launching the kayak my knife sits in my salty wet clothes for 6 or 8 hours...4-5 days a week. It's pretty brutal on a blade. Btw, thanks for the thread revival and all the thoughts, but I got the pacific salt a month ago! Got the se version and am super happy! Great knife!
 
Cool, glad you like it. I'm also happy with my Pacific Salt.
Not sure about this talk of lock strength. I don't hang weight from my blade and I've never heard of someone "naturally" defeating a lockback or any lock for that matter. Lock reliability is far more important than strength. When I think of an unreliable lock I think of a poorly made liner or frame lock. I'd say the Axis lock is less reliable than a lockback, especially in salt water where it could corrode. I'd also bet that in a normal environment, a lockback spring would outlast an Omega spring.
 
Surfingringo said:
:rolleyes: Send me that m4 grip and let me kayak fish with it for a month and see how that tool steel likes it. I want some m4 bad! Probably the gayle Bradley. But it's not the right steel for this job. Hell, i fished a couple of days with my bd-1 manix which is supposed to be highly corrosion resistant and it was covered in little rust spots at the end of each trip. After surf launching the kayak my knife sits in my salty wet clothes for 6 or 8 hours...4-5 days a week. It's pretty brutal on a blade. Btw, thanks for the thread revival and all the thoughts, but I got the pacific salt a month ago! Got the se version and am super happy! Great knife!
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Do you not believe me??
The blade is cerakoted, so rust is a non issue, except for the edge of the blade. All of the insides, except the omega spring are also cerakoted. My M4 Grip is probably more rust resistant than most.



When I took it apart to dry.



And here's the Ocean it swam in.




And you totally disregarded the point I was trying to make.
 
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Cool but the Spyderco doesn't need to be taken apart to dry because every part of it is rust proof.
 
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