Beretta 96 BRIGADIER INOX??

If you are shooting the Brigidier (reenforced slide) with the 9mm +P+ loads, you are getting ballistically close to the 40S&W and 357Sig. Standard 9mm works for most situations regardless of what you read on-line. Would I rather have a 40S&W or 357Sig - YES!

I would not feel under gunned as a civilian carrying widely available 9mm ammunition (Gold Dots, SXTs, Golden Sabres, etc.).

The 92 will give you cheaper shooting costs, reduced recoil, high round count in the pistol.

My friend has one of the H&K Homeland Defense DAO pistols and raves about it. He is a competition shooter in the military so, he knows 1911's and M9's better then most.

Myself, I never really warmed up to the USP family as much as I wanted to. It is a personal thing. I really like the SIG pistols - any of them.

My Beretta 92 Brigidier is just a little long in double action for my tastes. I'm sure I can overcome that with training but, a Glock and Sig to shoot it just hasn't seen enough trigger time.

Be wary of the S&W pistols. Their Auto's have had spotty records. The current generation pistols are pretty good but, earlier guns had various problems.

Another sleeper in this line of discussion is the Baby Desert Eagle. The steel framed 9mm is a sweet copy of the CZ 75.
 
Spydiefan04 said:
So what are the advantages of the 92 over the 96 and would I be as well armed with a 92 with say 147-gr SXT or Hydra-shok as I would with 180-gr in .40? I have no idea about the ballistics btn a 9 and .40 I've always shot .45s in a semi-auto.
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You're going to get into a lot of personal opinion here, but the 9mm is almost as effective as the .40 when used with the right ammo. For what's it worth, IMO 180 grain .40 is too heavy. 155 or 165 is better. I like hydra-shoks myself. For 9mm, I like 115 grain hydra-shoks. You'll get a whole lot of varied opinions on this so just research and make up your own mind. Try a search for "caliber stopping
power" and sit back and read. I think it can be almost universally agreed bullet placement is more important than caliber. I don't feel under-armed with a 9mm. Here's some information Stopping power

For my money, 9mm is a better choice than .40. Lighter recoil, more ammo in a magazine, and most important, cheaper and more abundant.

The 92 is the original and was designed for 9mm. Someone once said that a gun is best suited for the caliber it was originally intended for. With this model, that is probably true. Parts are easier to find and cheaper due to the abundance of these guns. I really liked my 96 but I traded it for a 92 for the reasons above. The 96 was flawless and accurate.

Yeah, the 92 is great gun and even better looking. But you knew that already didn't you?
 
Thanks so much guys, a lot of what I thought about the whole .40 vs. 9mm is just being reaffirmed by what you all are saying, definately NOT trying to start a caliber war and if yall must know I usually shoot 230 ball or SXT or Hydra-shoks (I've always been partial to Winchester and Federal) so I'm not really up or into what is the best uber-cartridge on the market at any given time.

I am now thinking I'm more interested in the 92 than 96. What I'd like to know is the 92 Elite worth the money over the standard FS or Brigadier models(what is different about it)? Does it come WITH a factory trigger job. Also, is it every bit as reliable (I know that in 1911s extreme fit and finish can sometimes compromise reliability but I'm not familiar with the 92 elite other than handling one once). Thanks again for all of the information, when I get out of S&W wheelguns and 1911s I'm out of my jurisdiction :D .
 
have said it before/will say again, any service calibre pistol with good modern ammo will work as good as a pistol will work, by good ammo i mean speer gold dot or w-w ranger, 9MM, .40, .357mag& sig, .45acp, all good.

have seen ballistic gel that had been shot thru 2 layers denim with 9MM 147gr SXT, .357SIG 125gr SXT, .40 180gr SXT and 45 acp 230gr SXT and the wound channels were virtually indistinguishable from 1 calibre to the next, without knowing no one could pick out the .45 from the 9MM, point being no pistol is perfect but with good ammo they are all fairly even, at least among the service calibres.
 
The Elites are just as reliable as any other Beretta. They do have a better trigger, but I believe that is mostly due to the use of a D model mainspring. This spring costs less than $5 and is very easy to install. Ernest Langdon used to sell them, but I think he may have severed his arrangement with BerettaUSA. He also had an even lighter competition spring, but I found that it wasn't 100% reliable, whereas the D model is.

What you also get is the G model decocker, which flips back up inder spring tension and will not act as a safety, a stainless steel barrel, and a couple other cosmetic things.

Another thing to consider, if you ever want to mount a light on the gun, get a 92G-SD, which is a Brigadier with a light rail.
 
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