Best all metal folder

JordanR said:
im wondering, what are the weaknesses of the monochrome?
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The only negative I remember hearing is some people think they are too heavy for comfortable EDC. Since you want metal handles, weight would be hard to avoid in any knife you get.
 
JordanR,

I asked you this in a post once before but you didn't answer. Would you mind telling us why you are so stuck on wanting an all metal knife? If you think they are stronger, that's a mistake. Aluminum, for example, can fracture if it is not aircraft quality. I have some all metal knives but they were chosen carefully and cost more than the $60-$70 you want to spend. There are plenty of knives that are almost completely metal but have synthetic "scales" (handle coverings).

What are your motives for an all metal knife? I just don't understand. We could help you a lot more if we knew your reasoning.

Regards
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Kershaw Storm II (slightly larger than the Storm I) is an all-steel framelock with a deeply recurved 3 5/8" clip point blade in 12C27. No worry about grip slipping on this with its shaped handle and grip inserts. Opens by dual thumbstuds or a small-but-effective flipper. Works in direct and reversed grip. About $35.
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I have a Storm II and I really love it.
 
sorry about that bladeprince,
the thing is not only do i use my folders every day, but i call apon them to do things no folder should be asked to do. i go camping every weekend during summer and my paraframe II was my workhorse. and, when i go camping i also carry my kabar, multitool, flashlight, pocket survival kit and more. so wieght is not an issue. ill use my knife to pry, hack, hammer, saw, stab and beat anything i need it to. and i need a knife that i feel confident and comfortable with to do those things. and i allso want to feel safe with reling on it in certain uncomfortable cituations, as well as i want it to perform for me as somthing reliable enough to survive with.
 
snd the price range is because i wont spend more on a knife just to loose it in the woods or something
 
For the stuff that you are calling a folder to do, you would probabaly be better served by a fixed blade, but if you want a all metal folder, I would recommend the BM Monochrome like many others before me.

The lock is sturdy and strong, no bladeplay at all and the N690 is excellent. I have managed to get mine scary sharp!!
 
I just got my Lava from NewGraham in the mail this morning. Going to have to add that one to the list of better all metal folders.

Although it is a smaller folder, the quality is high and the grip is more secure than with other folders sporting even longer blades. It has a nice little utility shaped blade ground nice and thin and is ambi for right or left hand carry. For under $80 its a fine package for sure, and the first one I've seen that I'd actually prefer to carry over the Kiwi just because of the handle. I could see this knife being bumped up to the next level size wise and filling the void the Dodo left also.

STR
 
Tetsusaiga said:
For the stuff that you are calling a folder to do, you would probabaly be better served by a fixed blade, but if you want a all metal folder, I would recommend the BM Monochrome like many others before me.
The lock is sturdy and strong, no bladeplay at all and the N690 is excellent. I have managed to get mine scary sharp!!
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I agree. But if you insist on an all metal knife then from what you mentioned in post #47, I think you should say "all steel knife". It doesn't sound like aluminum would stand up to the possible punishment. If I wanted to pound on something and only had a folder, even a steel one, I'd use a rock, not my knife. You have an interesting concept of what you want to use a folder for. No offense intended, of course.

That as is may be, I also suggest the BM Monchrome and the other all steel Spyderco's recommended.

I would also like to through in the Camillus EDC, if it has not been mentioned.

However, to me, a folder is not a hammer or a prybar. That's fixed blade territory, and only certain one's even for a fixed blade.

Good luck
 
i have been carrying the monochrome and the Kershaw Cyclone alternately for a few months, and the only things i like better about the cyclone are the slightly thicker handles and the assisted opening. The blade steels seem about equal (N690 and 13C26 -- both are quite good)... Both lock up solid and open smoothly... I guess if i had to point to a weakness to the Monochrome, it would be the thin handles (which is not really a weakness, more of a personal preference...)
 
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None mightier than this, when it comes to all metal folders.
 
JordanR said:
what do you guys think about the Buck mayo Cutback 174?
its got 420HC
RC 58-60
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For starters, I don't believe 420HC with an RC rating of 58-60.
Typical rating for 420HC is RC 49-53.
The only knife steel softer that I know of is 420J2 but they are both close.
IMO, it's ok for a cheap pocket knife but that's about it.

We have suggested some very fine all steel knives with decent quality blades considering the price restriction you set. I guess I don't know why you asked.

OK....here's one more then I'm done. I would buy the BM Monochrome, the Camillus EDC, one of the Spyderco's or this knife,
the Ka Bar Dozier Thorn. I have one and like it very much.
http://www.knifeworks.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2334
 
buck says: 420HC - A higher carbon version of standard Type 420 martensitic stainless steel. The Carbon content, combined with the high Chromium content, provides good abrasion resistance and edge-holding. This steel is not to be confused with standard 420 stainless steel. 420HC is an excellent general purpose knife steel when heat-treated with our proprietary Paul Bos heat-treat process. Good edge holding ability
Resharpens well
Rockwell Rc 58
Good toughness
Very good corrosion resistance
Excellent standard knife steel 420J2 - A lower carbon content, general-purpose stainless steel. 420J2 has fair hardness and corrosion resistance and high ease of resharpening. 420J2 is suited for knife blades with light to medium use and routine applications.

Resharpens well
Rockwell Rc 56-58
Good manufacturability
Good corrosion resistance
Fine-blankable
 
JordanR said:
what do you guys think about the Buck mayo Cutback 174?
its got 420HC
RC 58-60
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This knife has 440c blade steel and holds a good edge for the low price paid.:thumbup:
I do like the mono-chrome better though.
 
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