I was on line shopping for other things and stumbled on a senrenmu.704 I think the number was. I have never owned anything from them, so actual quality could be anybodies guess, But Ilike the look, and it is dirt cheap. I am gonna try not to buy it, since I have enough knives to last me a few lifetimes. I am honestly a bit disgusted with myself for it. I like the idea of just buying one really good item of a particular type, use it till it needs to be replaced, then replace it. Instead, I've got a dozen or so knives of similar size and usefullness, most of which are barely broken in. You know how cool it is when the 79 year old guy pulls out the knife his dad gave him when he was a young man, and it looks like its been to hades and back, but it still works for him? Well, I will never be that guy, cause I've bought a couple knives a year since Igot married in 98, and I have not been slowing down. I really need to quit. I will enjoy the ones I've got more if Ijust stop buying more.