Best damn Multi-tool! Experts, come out of the woodwork.

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I broke-down and decided that I "needed" a multi-tool. Spending $200 a pop on quality knives, I knew that the best multi-tool ain't even coming close to that price. So, when it comes to a multi-tool for me... money is no object.
I've seen a Charge Ti for $65 on ebay and was tempted to buy it. Is that a good deal? Decided to do the research and get comments first.
So if I want the best multi-tool ever, which should I buy? Is the Charge Ti the best? Or is it like other knives where there is no best and that it depends what your intentions are?
 
Oh man you atre going to get a lot of different opinions here.

I would say the top 3 are.

1) Victorinox
2) Leatherman Charge xti
(3) SOG powertool

Everyone is going to have their fav no matter what. For instance some people don't like the way the victorinox snap back because its hard to close. But it is a very well made quality multitool.
 
colubrid said:
Oh man you atre going to get a lot of different opinions here.

I would say the top 3 are.

1) Victorinox
2) Leatherman Charge xti
(3) SOG powertool

Everyone is going to have their fav no matter what. For instance some people don't like the way the victorinox snap back because its hard to close. But it is a very well made quality multitool.
I saw in a mini-catalog that came with my SOG that thier Powertool can be flipped open like a balisong. Is that good or is that just some gimmick? I like the idea of the great steel on the Charge, but I am not only looking at that feature.
 
deathshead said:
I broke-down and decided that I "needed" a multi-tool. Spending $200 a pop on quality knives, I knew that the best multi-tool ain't even coming close to that price. So, when it comes to a multi-tool for me... money is no object.
I've seen a Charge Ti for $65 on ebay and was tempted to buy it. Is that a good deal? Decided to do the research and get comments first.
So if I want the best multi-tool ever, which should I buy? Is the Charge Ti the best? Or is it like other knives where there is no best and that it depends what your intentions are?

First, do you consider the original swiss army knife a multi-tool? Some people do, and some people consider only the designs more akin to the classic Leatherman, with full-size pliers, multi-tools.

It depends on what your intentions are. It also depends on limitations. For example not everyone, including me, would EDC a Leatherman Surge, which weighs more than 3/4 of a pound (tool alone!). Also blade length can be a legal / policy limitation just like it is for knives. Also, whether or not you carry a dedicated knife will affect the decision, because you may not require the absolute best multi-tool knife blade if you're already carrying a knife you prefer. It certainly isn't an easy decision.

But that doesn't prevent one from forming an opinion as to what might be the best for most situations.

Here's my opinion. I've owned a cheap Leatherman clone, a LM Wave (older model), a LM Squirt P4, a LM Squirt EL, 2 LM Charge XTis, a LM Micra, a LM Juice Pro, a Swiss Army Cybertool 34 Lite, a SAK Cybertool 41, and a SwissMemory.

While I thought the Cybertools were very well made, and very nice, I've decided that the Leatherman design is, for my purposes, better. It's all about the pliers. They give the tool a much more tool-like feeling. While the Cybertools had pliers, they were small things and not nearly as strong. I sold both of my Cybertools on eBay.

I admit to being somewhat of a Leatherman whore, but this is because their products have worked so well for me. Still you should take what I have to say with a grain of salt for this reason. I have not used any of the Victorinox Swisstool models yet, or anything from SOG. I have seen a Gerber model, but didn't like the flick-out desgin of the pliers (on that particular model). I am considering buying a Swisstool Spirit, mainly to check it out; I've been interested for awhile.

Of all of my LMs, the Charge is easily the most well-made, and that's saying quite a bit, as the quality of LMs products in general is outstanding. The fit, finish, durability, precision, and everything else still impresses me even after owning my first one for over a year. It feels like it was made for someone who must have the very best. The worst part of shopping for a Charge, though, is the annoyance of the two different models. It's all been said already... LM could've easily made only one model that included the best of both designs. I suppose that one could combine the two by sacrificing one, but I think few would want to sac a Charge for parts, even at the $65 price you've found.

It's a tough call, but I'd say the XTi is the better overall choice. If you look at the specs, in my opinion the only thing significant the XTi is missing is the scissors. Now especially for a sophisticated knife user, I don't think this is a huge loss... just use the knife instead, even if it doesn't work as well for some tasks. I can't think of any immediate, critical job scissors could do that a knife couldn't. Multi-tools are synonomous with improvisation anyway. Some say the missing surface of the pliers occupied by the crmiper on the XTi is a significant disadvantage; I have yet to have that problem.

With that being said, you have to look at what the XTi has that the Ti doesn't. The Ti has a dedicated 1/4" slotted screwdriver, but the XTi has a 1/4" slotted screwdriver on one of the two double-ended bits. Many think that the second bit driver is superfluous. I think that depends on how you are carrying. If you're not carrying it in the pouch and not carrying bits external to the tool, the second bit driver adds a lot of versatility. Plus, having another phillips driver fills in gaps that the combo #1/#2 driver on the Ti leaves. I have yet to use the cutting hook, but I appreciate that it's there. The crimper is not suitable for electrical terminals, so it hasn't been useful for me. You can crimp electrical terminals using the handles. See Doug Ritter's review on equipped.com. For me, the extra implements aren't extremely useful, but they are appreciated. The bottom line is that I believe that the XTi can handle more jobs than the Ti.
 
I own one of each, the Swisstool (the old style without the scissors), the Charge Ti, and the SOG Powerlock. Of the three, I end up carrying the Charge most of the time for two reasons: because I like the ability to open the two blades, the file, and the saw with one hand, and because I like true needlenose pliers. As far as quality of construction goes, I haven't seen anything comparing the three tools head-to-head in torture tests, such as Consumer Reports.

The SOG has excellent pliers but the rest of the tools are serviceable at best. This tool is going in my boat. I also have a LM Supertool that stays with my motorcycle. I'll probably end up rotating the Charge and the Vic for daily carry, but either way, there's always a Vic Super Tinker in my pocket.
 
cool_hand_luke said:
Large hands: Victorinox Swiss Tool X
Small hands: Victorinox Spirit

+1 here on the Vic SwissTool X or RS. And if you want to add more functionality, get the Plus version with wrench and driver bits.

I also own a LM Charge, but I find the SwissTool "tougher" over-all (I own 2, and EDC an X Plus model). However, a more direct competitor of the SwissTool is the LM Core, which unfortunately I have no personal experience in using. You may also want to look to the LM Core if you need professional sized drivers, larger implements and true needlenose pliers. =)
 
I'm a LM convert. I EDC a new Wave which I think better value for money than the Charge. Most important factor in favour of LM = matt black oxide finish. I don't think this is available in SOG or Swisstool ranges but impresses my buddies.
 
"I like the idea of the great steel on the Charge, but I am not only looking at that feature"

The SOG has about the best steel and quality of any multitool. If you hold one in your hands its no comparison to the WAVE and LM's.

The SOG Powertool can also be opened one handed. But the gears on the end make it impossible to carry in a pocket because of the sharp points. Its also pretty heavy.
 
deathshead said:
Or is it like other knives where there is no best and that it depends what your intentions are?

It definitely depends on your intentions. I am very conscious of the weight of the tools I carry, so you’ll never see me carrying a Charge. The charge is very bulky and very heavy. I carry a basic Spirit, which is very nice compromise between tool strength, size and weight. I don’t have the plus model because I don’t need the bits. I just have a medium sized compact package, that rivals the size and weight of a medium sized Swiss Army Knife. If my intentions were for an enormously strong tool with lots of screwdriver flexibility, I might look at the Charge.
 
Here it is:

black-swisstool.jpg
 
felinevet said:
Here it is:

black-swisstool.jpg


Does the black finish make the tool more "grippable"? Personally, one of the advantages I think the Charge has over the ST is that the handles aren't so highly polished, which aids in maintaining a grip in rain, snow, etc.
 
I thank that a new Wave or a Charge Ti would be good to start with, they have most of the stuff other multitools have plus one hand opening blades (154CM plain edge on the Charge), a diamond file and a bit holders…without all of the weight and bulk of some of the full sized multitools.


If want more of a heavy duty multitool, I would suggest the Core.




- Frank
 
I'm a relatively recent owner of a swisstool spirit pro (a month and a half). Before that, I owned an old-style leatherman wave for many years.

The swisstool is unbeatable. While I've had it, it's seen extensive use everywhere from a construction site to a particle physics laboratory. It's part of my EDC, and it just disappears on my belt. I've seen screwdriver bits on Gerbers just bend under force that my swisstool laughs at.

Swisstool, simply the best :-D
 
deathshead said:
I saw in a mini-catalog that came with my SOG that thier Powertool can be flipped open like a balisong. Is that good or is that just some gimmick? I like the idea of the great steel on the Charge, but I am not only looking at that feature.
The i know for a fact the the leatherman Ti can be fliped like a balisong...but i'm not a 100% on the Xti
 
RickG55 said:
Does the black finish make the tool more "grippable"? Personally, one of the advantages I think the Charge has over the ST is that the handles aren't so highly polished, which aids in maintaining a grip in rain, snow, etc.

The difference is very noticeable. The black finish is much less "slick" feeling in the hand.
 
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