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Best diamond Bench stone

Discussion in 'Maintenance, Tinkering & Embellishment' started by robertesq1, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. robertesq1

    robertesq1

    50
    Feb 6, 2003
    I am considering the Venev or DMT, but want the best. Buy once, cry once. I am replacing 1000/300 I purchased from the Japanese retailer Korin. Need help from the hive mind, brain trust here please.

    Thanks, Robert
     
  2. Blues

    Blues Lapsed SuperMod / Cattle Knife Rustler Staff Member Super Mod

    Oct 2, 1998
    I don't think there is one "best"...but there may be a best for a given situation.

    Each of the various diamond offerings, plated and bonded, offers strengths as well as weaknesses.

    I use both plated, (usually DMT but some other "lesser" versions as well), and bonded, (Matrix, Venev), depending on the steel and the type of sharpening required (or desired).

    Also, I believe that David, (Diemaker on the forum), may be coming out with bonded diamond bench stones similar to the "Matrix" stones he makes for the Edge Pro system. How far off that may be I do not know.

    All that said, while there may not be a single "best", you can certainly get most of your work done (at the very least) adequately with any of the aforementioned systems.

    I'm sure others will have differing viewpoints. Mine is just one.
     
  3. Jason B.

    Jason B. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jun 13, 2007
    Hard to beat a DMT plate, I've had mine for a long time and sharpened thousands of knives on them. I tend to use the Coarse DMT most often, produces a very good edge for edc tasks and is much sharper than most would expect especially if stropped a bit.
     
  4. DeadboxHero

    DeadboxHero

    Mar 22, 2014
    What are you sharpening? Kitchen knives?
    What are you looking for from edge finish? Mirror edge?
     
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  5. DeadboxHero

    DeadboxHero

    Mar 22, 2014
    C'mon Bos, I figured you as an Atoma man. :D

     
  6. Jason B.

    Jason B. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jun 13, 2007
    Atoma plates are much better at lapping IMO, the diamonds clusters sit higher and I have found that this just digs into the edge more. The DMT plates don't have the diamonds sitting as high so the finish is better and the edge is cleaner.
     
  7. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    I prefer bonded diamonds over surface mount diamonds.
     
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  8. robertesq1

    robertesq1

    50
    Feb 6, 2003
    I am using it mostly for kitchen knives, but it will also be general purpose EDC etc.
     
  9. I'm spoiled on DMT plates, mainly for the reasons mentioned by Jason (cleaner, more consistent finish, etc). I seldom feel the need to even strop after finishing on a DMT plate, because the edge is left very clean. They just get it done, and simply so.
     
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  10. robertesq1

    robertesq1

    50
    Feb 6, 2003
    Do You mean a DMT lapping plate? never mind i looked it up....
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2019
  11. Jason B.

    Jason B. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jun 13, 2007
    For kitchen knives stick to stones, for folders or PM steels use diamonds. Diamonds just don't do that great on kitchen knives and if anything it will take you longer than just using some simple waterstones.
     
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  12. Wowbagger

    Wowbagger Basic Member Basic Member

    Sep 20, 2015
    I look forward to getting some Venev or similar stones but here is an old Link > > > to photos and my experiences with the DMT. I find them to be very high quality as far as flatness and durability.
    I particularly my much used 10 inch Coarse (blue dot) / Extra Coarse (black dot)

    Please excuse the text. Some have found it to be, shall we say, less than diplomatic and . . .
    I Admit To Having Learned And Grown As A Person And Sharpener Since Then :( :rolleyes: :) thanks to the people here in Blade Forums.
    (there are lots of photos though)
    See the last photo in particular on my Starrett surface plate.
     
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  13. DeadboxHero

    DeadboxHero

    Mar 22, 2014
    You guys here should know Jason is a legend with getting really nice edges with coated diamond stones. Any advice or tips he has on the subject should be greatly appreciated.

     
  14. DeadboxHero

    DeadboxHero

    Mar 22, 2014
    Jon Brodia at Japanese Knife Imports has a killer set of bonded diamond resin stones.
    The 1k and the 6k. They're expensive but worth the investment. They'll give you a better finish the the coated stuff and last a lifetime.
     
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  15. Wowbagger

    Wowbagger Basic Member Basic Member

    Sep 20, 2015
    That was part of what I was trying to say in my post of today.
    I didn't know that last year or before but I know it now.
    That or lap with grit on a flat surface. In the past I just could not see why to do that but this year I have finally GOT IT and it makes sense as far as refreshing the stone's surface (conditioning it).
    As far as flattening I still lean toward the Atoma but haven't gotten one yet. The dang price has gone up some lately too.
     

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