Best Edge Retention Steel

cant find any write ups on it just like I cant seem to find a HRC rating on VG-10...

I have a Spyderco catalog dated 1998 and the full-sized Calypso with VG-10 is listed at Rc59-60.
But the Bill Moran Featherweight, also with VG-10, is listed at Rc60-62.
:confused:

Hope this helps,
Allen.
 
Yeah, D2 and M2 are both very good at holding an edge once it's sharp. M2 takes some work to bring back a dulled edge.

Your all going to think I am silly when I say that the blade that holds the best edge of just about any of my knives(I have lots of good named knives) is that little old red wood handled Frosts of Sweden Mora knife. This little sucker has cut up so many cardboard boxes that I can't count them and it just keeps cutting and stays sharper then hell. All I have ever done to the edge (and it really has'nt needed it) is run it accross a white wool felt wheel with green rouge on it.
I have no idea what kind of steel it is but it sure gets the job done for keeping sharp. Oh, it is a laminated steel also but once again I have no idea just what kind of steels....and they are dirt cheap too.:eek:

Ciao
Ron Cassel
 
If I remember correctly Spyderco hardened VG-10 higher, rc-62, at first then backed it down to 59-60. I don't know why they softened it.
 
The Moran was the first knife ever to use VG-10 steel. So I guess Spyderco was still collecting experience with it.

In the big picture only very few people appreciate a blade that is run very hard. There may be quite a few people on this board that do, but we are not the knife-buying majority. Someone using a knife for designated cutting tasks will appreciate a blade that is run very hard, hell the japanese even deal with blades that are run full-hard. But many people tend to abuse their knives as screw drivers and such (which is just fine for some knifes, usually those of a tactical nature) and since the toughness usually decreases as hardness goes up, this then leads to very unhappy people, thinking Spyderco knives are brittle or have weak tips etc. :jerkit:.

Actually that doesn't only apply to Spyderco knives. I think it is a general trend that factories are forced to run their steel softer than necessary, because there are too many people out there that think that every knife is of tactical nature and should withstand prying and hammering and worse: use as screwdriver regardless of the bladegrind, hardness, selection of steel etc. :rolleyes:.
 
Concerning the ATS 34 on the Sog Titanium Vision - Mine holds an edge VERY well.
In fact, as well as some of the S30-v blades I've had.

The only time it has not, was when I had done what the Mod referred to at the beginning of the thread. I left a wire edge, at did not realize it.

Because of my mistake (or lack of understanding) I almost wrote a couple of knives off as having poor edge retention when I first started sharpening, when it was actually my poor sharpening ability.

But like GI Joe used to say "Knowing is half the battle". :)
 
XxDrAg0nxX said:
The 710 looks good, but I really need the clip to be low profile like that of the SOG mini Vision and the AL Mar Sere 2000..

My considerations for a knife would be in this order:
1- Low Profile Clip
2- Good Edge Retention
3- Arc lock if possible (not so impt) could settle for linear

The Mini Vision was the perfect knife until I realised that it loses its edge rather fast..
VERY disappointing. WHY SOG WHY???

Another good option would be the Cabelas D2 version of the Griptilian or mini-Griptilian. Very good edgeholding, and the clip arrangement gives a fairly low profile. Axis lock is close enough to the Arc lock. Or the Ritter Grip or mini grip in S30V or M2.
 
I think that my Grip and Mini Grip in "D-2" (from Cabela's only) hold up better than any other knives that I own.
 
Not trying to hijack the thread here, but I went into my favorite local knife shop and was asking about the handmades he carries, and asking about getting a small caping-sized fixed blade in D2, and he recommended BG42, and said "think of it as a high-end D2".

My question is Why? Could have been saying it to promote the local knifemaker if that's his steel of choice? Or is it a true statement? I had settled on D2 after spending some time on this forum and hamdling the knives in the store. What advantages does BG42 have over D2?

Zac
 
If it matters to you, BG-42 is stainless steel. D2 isn't. (But it's "almost" stainless.)
 
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