@Seadaddy1970 I bought a W.E. system 1 year ago (stepped up from a sharpmaker) and by the 3rd knife I was perfectly comfortable putting my Shirogorov F95T on it. That's a full flat grind and is supposed to be super problematic on the W.E. clamp - nonsense. It is just not that hard to figure it out. And I have the old style/basic clamp. Get a W.E. while they are on sale.