Yeah i would second Opinels and the scandi Frost Moras and clipper also the triflex Craftsman. I just got a Douk-Douk (and a humungous one piece stainless steel Chinese cleaver!) from Lee Valley. The Douk is an interesting basic/simple knife. The mechanism is a little stiff but the carbon steel sharpens well. Has anybody here "waved" a douk douk? I generally don't go fot the whole wave thing but in this case it looks like it would be fairly easy to do and would make opening it a lot easier.