I have had both in the series for a few years now and like them but...
The retention on the sheaths is crazy, every time I have tested belt carry with the clip when I go to draw the blade there is lots of pressure and the whole shebang comes off the belt in 1 piece, sheath firmly attatched.
Even in hand when drawing the blade it seems the amount of pressure to draw gives worry to incidental cuts as the hand finally accelerates away from the sheath with force.
So they sit in a box and get handled watching T.V.
anyone else have this problem?