I have both, a couple of them made by Doan, and one made by Coghlan's. I like them both. However, I read that Doan is the best, the one in Air Force survival kits, and another brand had problems with the ferro rod detaching. I did not know (as Ron Athay mentioned in post #7) that Doan made Coghlan's version. Maybe the one that had problems detaching was some other "no name" brand. FYI the Doan brand one is available at Cabela's for $5.99. Good Luck.