Best nontraditional folder $10 or under?

Are you forgetting the fact that sanrenmu makes knockoffs and we shouldn't buy knockoffs?
 
there is only one knife in that price range that will outdo most knives even in the 50 dollar price range........

opinel!!!!!!
 
mk.ultra said:
I'm pretty much broke...
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I totally understand.

I would suggest that you save up a little more. If you can get to $20, you really can find some much better knives imo. Kabar Doziers, Spyderco Byrd line, Buck Bantam, CRKT Drifter/Pazoda, Kershaw halfton/od2/vapor to name a few
 
freedoom said:
Are you forgetting the fact that sanrenmu makes knockoffs and we shouldn't buy knockoffs?
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Probably shouldn't, you're right, but most of their knives, while very similar to other knives, are different sizes.

While that doesn't excuse it, the value helps me forget that I hate clone companies.
 
mk.ultra said:
I'm pretty much broke...I just spent a bunch of money on my first 5 folders (Spyderco Tenacious, Benchmade Mini Grip 556, Ontario Rat-1, Boker Trance, SOG Mini Vulcan). Honestly, I think I could get just as much enjoyment out of some really cheap knives.
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I think you have enough to cut pretty much anything you want. Why buy junk when you can wait till you save enough to buy another decent knife? :jerkit:
 
I wouldn´t call that SanRenMu stuff junk. I even suspect the Byrds and Bucks are made by them. Their quality control is just as good Those chinese guys just think that making a product resembling existing designs is not a shame.
But don´t worry, in a couple of years that 5 year old kid will have finished his education in a quickly modernizing China and will be a designer working for the factory that put him through college and the designs will be original.

And no, I´m not Chinese.
And yes, I´m impressed with the development in China.
And maybe it makes me afraid what is happening over there.
 
Habbekuk said:
I wouldn´t call that SanRenMu stuff junk. I even suspect the Byrds and Bucks are made by them. Their quality control is just as good Those chinese guys just think that making a product resembling existing designs is not a shame.
But don´t worry, in a couple of years that 5 year old kid will have finished his education in a quickly modernizing China and will be a designer working for the factory that put him through college and the designs will be original.

And no, I´m not Chinese.
And yes, I´m impressed with the development in China.
And maybe it makes me afraid what is happening over there.
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So how do they make them for $7? Just asking since you seem to be so up on Chinese manufacturing.
 
I´m afraid I cannot give you a cost/breakdown. I know that the companies are working hard on cost minimalization and labour optimalization.
I´ve seen the workers on the plants and mines where I worked living on site, in 6 guys (or gals, but never mixed) sleeping rooms, feeling rich because they have a tv in each room. They work 12 hour shifts. They visit their family (family is important) twice a year after long, but very cheap bus&train travels.
They get their 3 square meals from the company. I don't know if that is deducted from their salaries, but those meals won't be expensive. I had meals together with those guys and it was not bad (the quality depended on which class of classless people I was hooking up with at the moment). When I had comparable meals from foodstalls in town they would cost me 0,30$, and that is including "long-nose tax". Also all kinds of consumer goods don't cost nothing. I bougth a lighter at a stall, the lady indicated "five". I handed over 50 cents and got 45 in change. A market girl led me taste a tangerine and I decided to buy some, always nice to have some vitamins during plant commisioning. I handed her 50$ cents, she gave me a bag to hold up and never stopped filling it. I was handing out tangerines for a week.
So the only answer I can give is: labour doesn't cost shit because the cost of life is below room temperature. And the chinese gouvernment knows F**king well how to exploit this.
 
Habbekuk said:
I´m afraid I cannot give you a cost/breakdown. I know that the companies are working hard on cost minimalization and labour optimalization.
I´ve seen the workers on the plants and mines where I worked living on site, in 6 guys (or gals, but never mixed) sleeping rooms, feeling rich because they have a tv in each room. They work 12 hour shifts. They visit their family (family is important) twice a year after long, but very cheap bus&train travels.
They get their 3 square meals from the company. I don't know if that is deducted from their salaries, but those meals won't be expensive. I had meals together with those guys and it was not bad (the quality depended on which class of classless peolpe I was hooking uo with at the moment). When I had comparable meals from foodstalls in town they would cost me 0,30$, and that is including "long-nose tax". Also all kinds of consumer goods don't cost nothing. I bougth a lighter at a stall, the lady indicated "five". I handed over 50 cents and got 45 in change. A market girl ley me taste a tangerine and I decided to buy some, always nice to have some vitamins during plant commisioning. I handed her 50$ cents, she gave me a bag to hold up and never stopped filling it. I was handing out tangerines for a week.
So the only answer I can give is: labour doesn't cost shit because the cost of life is below room temperature. And the chinese gouvernment knows F**king well how to exploit this.
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So they abuse and underpay their workers is what you are saying.
 
Oh, I forgot to mention, but the most disturbing thing is that those guys look happy. And when you talk to them they are as human as you and me, but sound content.
*sometimes I worry, sometimes I worry a lot*

But I'll buy Sanrenmu knives, they are great, and that was an answer to the original question in this thread.
 
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@freedoom
No, that is certainly not what I am saying. It is an upcoming industrial nation trying to take care of it's people. Better than Industrial Revolution Europe. I do not say I like it. But the country is doing it's best to better the position of their labourers and farmers. I see that the gouvernment is doing real long time planning looking 20-30 years into the future. Democracies only look as far as the next election.
I think democracy is the best way we have to steer nations yet. So please see the above as a warning, not as fan boy chinaism.
But to get back on topic, those sanrenmu knives are great.
 
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mmarkh said:
So how do they make them for $7? Just asking since you seem to be so up on Chinese manufacturing.
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Do you think that manufacturing cost of some spyderco byrds, low end kershaws, etc is much different. I'm pretty sure that many good low end knives can be produced for less than $5. Maybe less than $2. That's the magic of mass production. I really doubt that production of Sanrenmu knife is different from production of low end spyderco, kershaw, CRKT and others.

What really surprises me is that goods can be shipped from China and delivered to my door so inexpensively.

I have shipped some knives within US and paid $7 for shipping. And at the same time those guys in China can sell me a good quality knife for $7 delivered from China to US. Amazing.
 
mmarkh said:
So how do they make them for $7? Just asking since you seem to be so up on Chinese manufacturing.
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Pick up that documentary "Wal-Mart: The High Cost Of Low Prices." The answer (scary as it is) is in there.
 
effer said:
Do you think that manufacturing cost of some spyderco byrds, low end kershaws, etc is much different. I'm pretty sure that many good low end knives can be produced for less than $5. Maybe less than $2. That's the magic of mass production. I really doubt that production of Sanrenmu knife is different from production of low end spyderco, kershaw, CRKT and others.

What really surprises me is that goods can be shipped from China and delivered to my door so inexpensively.

I have shipped some knives within US and paid $7 for shipping. And at the same time those guys in China can sell me a good quality knife for $7 delivered from China to US. Amazing.
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That's my point. I'm not making this political,I am just unsure how they can make the parts, put them together and ship them from freakin China for $7 and still make money. The costs are cut somewhere.
 
mmarkh said:
That's my point. I'm not making this political,I am just unsure how they can make the parts, put them together and ship them from freakin China for $7 and still make money. The costs are cut somewhere.
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Low overhead, large quantities works fine for many companies. Distribution costs and markups are cut to minimum. Also net profit that US company might consider too low, is enough for Chinese company.

Shipping price from China to US (not just for knives) really surprise me, considering the fact that delivery in the country is handled by the same USPS. I guess that when shipping within US, we pay for all postal offices retail locations, advertising etc, while China is paying only delivery service costs.

We have derailed the topic a bit, but if anyone knows, I would love to know how much it costs to send a 6-10oz parcel from China to US. And also what is the cost of the same parcel being shipped within China.
 
See, it's all about the volume. Sure, they may lose a little on each knife, but they make it up in volume.


Wait .... that didn't sound quite right ... :D
 
The same factory that puts out Sanrenmu also puts out another line under the brand 'LAND'.

And I wouldn't be surprised if the above Boker and many other Chinese-made, USA-branded knives also come from the same factory or manufacturing network.

The Boker looks a nice knife, BTW.
 
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