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asterik216

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It had been a while since I have posted or even been on here actually I know this is the place. So anyways I am looking to get a couple stones for someone and am not sure what way to go. I was thinking the corse - fine 6" dmt combination stone with a strop should be able to do everythin. I was also looking at some norton combination stones as well. Really I would prefer a 8" stone and not a 6" and to get that with the dmt stones its twice the price. They will mainly be used for kitchen knives and I feel like the difference between a 6" and 8" is huge.
 
Thats what it would cost for 2 of the 8" diamond plates and I think i would rather go with that over the tri hone.
 
Do you know what kind of kitchen knives? Make? Steel? You may or may not want to purchase diamond plates for them.
 
asterik216 said:
It had been a while since I have posted or even been on here actually I know this is the place. So anyways I am looking to get a couple stones for someone and am not sure what way to go. I was thinking the corse - fine 6" dmt combination stone with a strop should be able to do everythin. I was also looking at some norton combination stones as well. Really I would prefer a 8" stone and not a 6" and to get that with the dmt stones its twice the price. They will mainly be used for kitchen knives and I feel like the difference between a 6" and 8" is huge.
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If the kitchen knives are in simple stainless like most are (Henckels, Wusthof, Victorinox, Chicago Cutlery, Farberware, etc), the Norton Combo stones will work very well on those. Either of Norton's Crystolon (silicon carbide) or India stones (aluminum oxide) will do well, with the India 'Fine' grit (~320-360) being better at the finishing end on such knives. I use an 8" India C/F stone (IB8) for mine, and simply strop on a bare sheet of paper laid over the stone, to clean up the burr.
 
Exactly what I was thinking David. Norton Crystolon (Medium), and Fine India in my case. I have individual 8x2" bench stones for each.

In between sharpenings a Spyderco "medium" (brown) bench stone, (or Sharpmaker rods), for keeping the edges keen.
 
The best deal I've seen lately on DMT plates lately is a set of four, (XC, C, F, EF) in 8x3" for $200 with free shipping.

The vendor isn't a forum sponsor so I'll simply say that it'll be easy enough to find them via google. They always seem to be one of the first businesses listed.
 
Blues said:
Exactly what I was thinking David. Norton Crystolon (Medium), and Fine India in my case. I have individual 8x2" bench stones for each.

In between sharpenings a Spyderco "medium" (brown) bench stone, (or Sharpmaker rods), for keeping the edges keen.
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Lately, I've also been doing some quick touch-ups on a brown/grey ceramic (A.G. Russell's 'Field Sharpener'), on edges I've originally set on the Fine India. I'm doing this with my pocketknives too (Case, Buck), with their edges set in the same fashion. Very convenient and it follows the India very well. :thumbsup:
 
They have the 6" course-fine fine-extra fine ect for $50 on knives plus. If you want the 8" though its $50 for just one. And I had been considering those norton stones also thats why I figured I would ask. It kinda sucks lots of them are pre oiled as I am not a fan of using oil anymore and would rather use soap and water. It is just more convenient and does the same thing with less mess. I think its much easier to sharpen kitchen knives on a 8" though but I have never used those 6" plates.
 
Get them a Shapton Glass 500 or 2000 (or both if you really want to be their best friend ever).

Great for kitchen knives, splash and go and virtually universally admired.

The Shapton Glass 2000 is recommended if you only want to buy one stone...but the 500 / 2000 combo is just that much better. (Or something they can add to on their own.)

No soap for the Shaptons. Simply cool or lukewarm water.

Might be the best option of all.
 
DMT red and green and a strop are about all you need; it's what I've used for 30+ years. I recently bought a DMT ultra-coarse for re-setting the bevel, makes it go a LOT faster.
 
That's kinda what i was thinking myself. They cut easy and fast and last for a long time. Those are the interrupted ones but I was talking about the dia sharp one's. I am not sure what ones is better really as I have never used the dmt dia sharp plates before but it seems like maybe it world be smoother with better feedback. I see a 8" 2 sided red and green with a stand for $80. That's doesn't seen se bad really.
 
Its tough to not go with diamonds as a gift, as you don't have to worry about them plugging or glazing, esp if the skill level of the person you're getting them for is unknown. Here are some combi plates I reviewed awhile back:

https://bladeforums.com/threads/quick-combi-diamond-plate-comparison.1536426/

The cheapest of them (DMD - the one on the far right) is still going strong and a good choice for a travel stone. I keep a Washboard plate in the box with it for a strop, but you could just as easily wrap a sheet of paper around it with some Flexcut Gold or other compound and be in pretty good shape.

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Alberta Ed said:
DMT red and green and a strop are about all you need; it's what I've used for 30+ years. I recently bought a DMT ultra-coarse for re-setting the bevel, makes it go a LOT faster.
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The red and green is fine and extra
HeavyHanded said:
Its tough to not go with diamonds as a gift, as you don't have to worry about them plugging or glazing, esp if the skill level of the person you're getting them for is unknown. Here are some combi plates I reviewed awhile back:

https://bladeforums.com/threads/quick-combi-diamond-plate-comparison.1536426/

The cheapest of them (DMD - the one on the far right) is still going strong and a good choice for a travel stone. I keep a Washboard plate in the box with it for a strop, but you could just as easily wrap a sheet of paper around it with some Flexcut Gold or other compound and be in pretty good shape.
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Funny enough I actually just finished ordering the plates and thought the notification on my phone was going to be a receipt but it was for this post. I ended up going with the fine, extra fine 8" duo sharp plates. After it was all said and done it was $58 shipped. That seems pretty reasonable to me. The strop I also ordered cost half that price actually.
 
Obsessed with Edges said:
If the kitchen knives are in simple stainless like most are (Henckels, Wusthof, Victorinox, Chicago Cutlery, Farberware, etc), the Norton Combo stones will work very well on those. Either of Norton's Crystolon (silicon carbide) or India stones (aluminum oxide) will do well, with the India 'Fine' grit (~320-360) being better at the finishing end on such knives. I use an 8" India C/F stone (IB8) for mine, and simply strop on a bare sheet of paper laid over the stone, to clean up the burr.
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Agreed, plus the economy factor. I used the 6" for 10 years before moving up to the 8". The 6" is fine for pocket knives and bird & trout knives. The 8" is a huge step up and better for kitchen knives. To me the oil stones are easy to work on and no mess. DM
 
Now, that he's ordered the diamond in fine and x fine. They should work. I think a coarse stone is needed in a sharpening regiment. DM
 
David Martin said:
Now, that he's ordered the diamond in fine and x fine. They should work. I think a coarse stone is needed in a sharpening regiment. DM
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I will say it didn't seem right going fine-extra fine for like a all in one sharpening stone. Naturally I think it should be coarse-fine but I and fairly positive thats not how the dmt plates work. I personally would rather use oil stones or natural stones ect because I like the feedback you can get. But I also think that benefits more the higher up in grit you go. It is also for someone who doesn't have much practice sharpening and it's easier to learn when you get results faster. If your kinda unsure on sharpening using a stone that doesn't quickly tell you if its better or worse doesn't help. It is like a given that someone starting out is using the worst tools to learn technique. The dullest knife you have do it will take some work to make a change then then throw in a $5-10 harbour freight stone or whatever.
 
asterik216 said:
I will say it didn't seem right going fine-extra fine for like a all in one sharpening stone. Naturally I think it should be coarse-fine but I and fairly positive thats not how the dmt plates work.
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DMT has dual sided hones / plates in "Coarse-Fine" in both their DuoSharp and DiaSharp lines.
 
I know they do but from the comments I have found people use the fine extra fine plate when they need to sharpen typically. I don't know if it has to do with how dmt rates them or how quick they cut. Thinking about it they sell the tri fold and duolaps at home depot and I have only ever seen fine and extra fine but everything else is coarse fine.
 
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