Best Sharpener for an Inexperienced Sharpener

I get that and agree that that is where I need to be eventually. I do not want to be using dull blades between now and then so I need something that can maintain my edges while I perfect my hand sharpening technique.

Start learning on a coarse stone, or the coarse side of a combination stone etc. Feedback is very strong and the effects are immediately visible. Strop on newspaper wrapped around the same stone (no compound). Your edges will be toothy sharp to begin with and might surprise you how well this simple step can take you, and how effective this edge type can be for EDU. Use a cheap knife or two to start. One can learn to make this type of edge reasonably well in a weekend or two (though perfecting it will take a lot longer :) ). Once this is understood, apply what you've learned to progressively finer edges. In all reality, the fine side of most combination stones will be plenty sharp enough to shave arm hair and perform 90% of your chores. Advance as your skills in angle holding, recognition of tactile and audible feedback, understanding of burr formation, geometry etc become more fleshed out. It really is an experiential kind of skill, you'll learn fastest by doing.
 
If you want an adjustable sharpener that is compact, mobile, easy to learn how to use and that will produce excellent edges read some of the material on the ERU super "V" field sharpener. I've gotten feedback from people using it on M4 and Elmax as well as all other steels, all with good results. The ERU is designed to maintain edges on knives with cutting edge angles from 12 to 40 degrees inclusive. It has 3 moving parts and fits in your pocket. Sweet simplicity.
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Thank everyone for their responses and advice. I am going to go with the Ken Onion Work Sharp for now for 1 main reason. Speed of getting and maintaining a reasonably sharp edge. I have very little time to spend learning the hand craft right now and even if I was already a master I do not have more than a couple minutes if I am lucky to spend on maintenance. I love my knives as much as anyone but I do not NEED an edge past shaving sharp. Would I like one? Hell yes. Right now for me I have to find the balance. Right now with my schedule I do not see the real world advantage that a hair topping edge has over just a shaving edge. When I have the time I would love to be able to produce that kind of edge just for novelty of it as well as the challenge and feeling of accomplishment and pride in my work and blade. I will have to settle for now. Thanks again everyone
 
Thank everyone for their responses and advice. I am going to go with the Ken Onion Work Sharp for now for 1 main reason. Speed of getting and maintaining a reasonably sharp edge. I have very little time to spend learning the hand craft right now and even if I was already a master I do not have more than a couple minutes if I am lucky to spend on maintenance. I love my knives as much as anyone but I do not NEED an edge past shaving sharp. Would I like one? Hell yes. Right now for me I have to find the balance. Right now with my schedule I do not see the real world advantage that a hair topping edge has over just a shaving edge. When I have the time I would love to be able to produce that kind of edge just for novelty of it as well as the challenge and feeling of accomplishment and pride in my work and blade. I will have to settle for now. Thanks again everyone

Great choice imo. Just practice on inexpensive knives. Watch some videos and read up on tips using the worksharp.

Let us know what you think once you get it.
 
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Getting a decent guided system will allow you to get awesome results fast, give you some pride in the blades you create, and keep you interested in sharpening long enough to actually practice your freehand more often trying to match your guided results. Lansky Deluxe kit is only like $25 on Amazon, money well spent for the edges it can produce and the excitement it will add when your knives all turn into scalpals.

This member is, spot on with his comment

Get a Lansky, choice of stone set to meet your needs

You want to be able to sharpen free hand, fine, go for it,
great skill to have especially away from your sharpening system

Most people seem to free hand sharpen anywhere from poor to passable
I base that on handling thousands of used knives over the years edges needing a lot of regrinding
 
I don't have a sharpmaker to compare, but I get great hair popping edges with my Lansky Deluxe kit (that is standard ceramic). It took me only a few sharpening sessions (maybe 2 hours) to get highly proficient with it, I couldn't recommend it more highly for an unskilled sharpener who wants to get impressively sharp edges today. The only steels I have used it with are VG10, 1095, Aus8, 8Cr13 mov, 440A and a few unknown stainless kitchen knives - no problems with any.

If you go with the diamond Lansky kit (maybe better for s30v etc), I would suggest you also add the ceramic extra fine stone as that one is a great finishing stone that leaves a pretty polished edge that I doubt you will match with the diamond stones. Another essential addition is also either the 1) Lansky Super "C" Clamp OR the 2) Lansky Universal Mount. These will hold the blade clamp in place while you do your thing. I'd also pick up a decent strop to finish and bring back edges on your blades.

In order to get crazy awesome results with the Lansky system IME you will have to learn to detect burrs before switching sides and moving up in grits, which I think is an important step in improving with freehand. Of course the preset angle guides are a crutch that you will eventually have to let go of when you begin hand sharpening, but otherwise I think working with the Lansky system has helped me get a better idea what I am doing and what is going on whenever I try sharpen by hand now.

Final piece of advice - if you go Lansky - don't listen to the directions and do the bullshit 'X strokes per side' switching technique the first few times you sharpen a blade, instead - blast at one side until you work up a burr, then switch sides and work up a burr again, then move up in grits and repeat. Then once you are done with that all the way through your finest stone, now its time for the X strokes per side (only on that final stone) just to remove the final burr. Works like a charm that way.


THIS for WIN!!

Only thing to add is that after using the Lansky for 2 years or so, I started to move to small pocket stones for touch up. The Lansky, for me, has been like training wheels. I've learned the "feel" of sharpening and am starting to progress free hand after decades of failure.
 
Great thread! I'm also starting to shop around a bit for my first sharpener. Anxious to hear what OP thinks of the KO Work Sharp.

Just because I'm curious, does anyone have experience with the KO model and the standard? Is it really worth almost double?
 
Please spell this out. Which Lansky kit and what extra's would be a good starter for me? I'm afraid the freehand will take way to long to learn and more time spent right now than I want. Maybe give a reason why one kit or stone would be better for ...

Many many thanks
 
This was a good read as I'm in the same boat as the OP and many others. I'm waffling between the Wicked Edge, Edge Pro and Ken Onion edition Work Sharp. I can buy the WE and WS at a very good price (in the -40% range) but the EP would be full price or what ever sale I came across. I can also get Lansky for almost -50% but the WE and EP is really standing out to me.

Decisions decisions............ I think I am leaning more towards the WE though.
 
Great choice imo. Just practice on inexpensive knives.



This is a great piece of advice when I first started sharpening. An inexpensive knife is a great way to learn angles and the effects of different stone grits. I learned freehand using the Spyderco rods and eventually went to the water stones after researching videos from stone suppliers, especially Japanese Knife Sharpening Store and Chef Knives to Go. Even though i still consider myself a sharpening noob, the stone investment has paid off. I'm getting a very workable edge on all my knives including kitchen cutlery. Even if you decide not to purchase stones, I would suggest strop system for that final honing.

I wish I would have found this forum sooner, after some less than favorable results attempting to re-create a factory edge. The Sharpening section here is invaluable! I would like to hear about your results with the Ken Onion; good luck!
 
Step 1. Give the WS to someone you don't like.

Step 2. Buy some good stones.

Step 3. Practice, practice, practice because if you don't know the basics of sharpening no system will help you.
Yup.

It really isn't a difficult skill to learn. Perhaps difficult to perfect, but every thing is difficult to perfect, but not difficult to learn. Millions have done so before us and did quite well, and they didn't have any fancy gadgets or setups but stones and oil.
 
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Just because I'm curious, does anyone have experience with the KO model and the standard? Is it really worth almost double?

Used both... upgrades are definitely worth it in my opinion. Having variable speed alone is worth it, the wider belts, adjustable guide, etc. are a bonus.
 
This was a good read as I'm in the same boat as the OP and many others. I'm waffling between the Wicked Edge, Edge Pro and Ken Onion edition Work Sharp. I can buy the WE and WS at a very good price (in the -40% range) but the EP would be full price or what ever sale I came across. I can also get Lansky for almost -50% but the WE and EP is really standing out to me.

Decisions decisions............ I think I am leaning more towards the WE though.

I was in the same boat and tried a bunch of cheap sharpeners and stones. I tried a friends EDGE Pro and Wicked Edge and instantly fell in love with the WE. I liked the price point of the EP but holding the knife steady was something that I would have had to learn to do better. The WE learning curve was very quick and I was able to go through the various stones and strops to get my ZT's sharper than they've ever been. I figure I'd spent enough trying to find the perfect inexpensive sharpener and since I have a wide variety of knives (mostly right around $100 range with the exception of my Hinderer EDC) I'd just bite the bullet and get the WE. It is a very hard decision but that was what I found out on my sharpening journey. Best of luck...
 
This was a good read as I'm in the same boat as the OP and many others. I'm waffling between the Wicked Edge, Edge Pro and Ken Onion edition Work Sharp. I can buy the WE and WS at a very good price (in the -40% range) but the EP would be full price or what ever sale I came across. I can also get Lansky for almost -50% but the WE and EP is really standing out to me.

Decisions decisions............ I think I am leaning more towards the WE though.

If you get a WE you will not be disappointed. I sharpened free hand for years and got pretty good. I enjoyed using different stones and refining my technique. Then I went to a SharpMarker for fast touch ups with predictable results. It does touch ups well. Then I got a WE. Took my knives to a new level of sharpness. I got the Pro Pack and then tape 3M auto sandpaper to the stones if I want to go to 2500 grit before the strops. You will get very sharp edges (mirrored if you'd like) and very repeatable results. The WE forum has placements instructions for many, many knives which helps take the guess work out to speed the learning curve.

For me I get more enjoyment out of the very sharp mirrored edges I get with the WE than I did from sharpening free hand.
 
I was in the same boat. Became over whelmed with Information, bought a used sharp maker with the ultra fine stones, watched some YouTube videos and I seem to be able to get most of my knives very sharp. I have one KOA hunter with D2 that is giving me trouble at the moment but I'm very pleased with the sharp maker overall
 
I've had good success with the Sharpmaker but would like to step up into something better eventually. I will check out the Edge Pro or Wicked Edge soon.
 
I've had good success with the Sharpmaker but would like to step up into something better eventually. I will check out the Edge Pro or Wicked Edge soon.

The EP and WE will both allow you to re-profile much easier & faster. Either would be a solid investment in my opinion.
 
OK, not to take the thread in a weird direction, but what would be a good sharpener or sharpening system for someone who has no interest whatever in learning how to use stones freehand or with clipon angle fasteners or the like?

He is fairly impatient by nature, mainly interested in getting an edge back to sharp working order, and has little desire to dive deep into complex processes for their own sake. (I.e., utility wins over the zen of edges.)

As for the cutting tasks the knives are used for, they're mainly cutting cardboard, small pieces of wood, some plastic strapping, yard and garden work, that sort of thing. Not cutting metal. The blades to be sharpened are stainless (of commonplace varieties) and carbon (ditto), and have grinds that run the common gamut.

This is not a snark — it's a serious question. While the blade community contains many hobbies and fields of interest, among these are people who use ordinary knives in a pretty utilitarian way and just want to get on with a job after putting a working edge back on the tool.

What sharpener or system should such a person use?
 
Sorry, but I had to makes a comment here. AreBeeBee - did you not read this thread and just hijacked it to your liking? If you don't get the answer, you should consider starting a new thread. That's forum politeness, took me a while to get it too!
 
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