Best Spyderco Fighter

allenC said:
4. Rather inexpensive and easily replaced should the knife ever need to be left in the attacker, taken as evidence, or dumped in the river.
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Why would you possibly need to dump a knife in "the river" unless you commit a crime with it?

I'm new to this forum, is this kind of talk common?
 
The G-10 Police is one of the very best knives made by Spyderco. I think it was ahead of it's time and didn't sell as well then as it would now. Now that G-10 is the material of choice and SS is looked at as a second choice for handle materials, the G-10 version if introduced today would all but put the SS version out of production.

The full flat ground G-10 Police was one of the rare knives that made a great EDC as well as a good SD knife. If I were going to carry mostly for SD, I would choose SE and if it was going to be an EDC user, I would probably pick PE.

The Military is a great one as well. I trust the liner lock on the Military more than I trust the lock backs.
 
My favorite fighter is the CIVILIAN, easy to use with out a lot of training. Get James Keating vidio, watch it a couple of times and you will be good to go. I EDC a CIVILIAN.
 
One politically-incorrect observation about the political correctness of certain knives. Let's say you actually have to defend yourself (legitimately, legally) against an attacker, and actually use your knife to do so. After the fact, the bad guy and/or his next of kin sues you for an unjustified assault and battery (or wrongful death). You go to court, and your knife is introduced as an exhibit.

However "friendly-looking" and non-weapon-like your knife may appear, what do you think is going to be the likely reaction when the jury is informed that the name of the designer or endorser etched onto the blade is the name of a famous fighting school or fighting instructor? Especially when many weapons ordinances have "either/or" language to describe illegal knives, along the lines of "blade longer than X inches; OR designed for use as a weapon." Under some laws, even a knife that was under the legal maximum blade length could cause trouble if someone recognizes the name as a "tactical" designer or instructor.

Just a question to ask yourself. I've got to say, I'm impressed by many designs that bear the names of famous combat instructors--and you know who you are. I've just wondered whether the advantages of that might turn counterproductive.
 
Return of the J.D. said:
One politically-incorrect observation about the political correctness of certain knives. Let's say you actually have to defend yourself (legitimately, legally) against an attacker, and actually use your knife to do so. After the fact, the bad guy and/or his next of kin sues you for an unjustified assault and battery (or wrongful death). You go to court, and your knife is introduced as an exhibit.

However "friendly-looking" and non-weapon-like your knife may appear, what do you think is going to be the likely reaction when the jury is informed that the name of the designer or endorser etched onto the blade is the name of a famous fighting school or fighting instructor? Especially when many weapons ordinances have "either/or" language to describe illegal knives, along the lines of "blade longer than X inches; OR designed for use as a weapon." Under some laws, even a knife that was under the legal maximum blade length could cause trouble if someone recognizes the name as a "tactical" designer or instructor.

Just a question to ask yourself. I've got to say, I'm impressed by many designs that bear the names of famous combat instructors--and you know who you are. I've just wondered whether the advantages of that might turn counterproductive.
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I totally agree with this. I really wish the designer names were omitted from the blades themselves. I don't mind a little logo or somethingfor the designer on it (like on the Manix), but my Yojimbo, for example, says "Michael Janich Design" on it in 6 pt. type. If you google "Michael Janich", you get 50 some odd pages about Mr. Janich and his accomplishments as a martial artist- particulary skilled with edged weapons. Good advertising for him, probably not so good in the courtroom for someone who is forced to use the knife he designed. If I had my druthers, every Spyderco model would have just the bug logo, steel type and "Golden Colorado, USA Earth " (or Seki City) on it.
 
I agree loaded down with MBC experts, but also must ask as to whether you you would like to be tried by 12 or carried by 6. The best solution if it is hard to make up your mind is don't carry a knife for SD.
 
I was recently on a self-defense trainer's website (can't remember who/where). Anyway, he was describing the Spyderco Rescue family as an excellent SD knife. Light, strong, aggressive serrations, and very sheeple friendly as it's original design was for "Rescue" situations (plus they're available with blue, yellow, or orange handles). Possibly the easiest blade to describe to a jury as to why you were carrying it. Only thing they lack is a pointed blade, but if I understand most knife defense techniques, slashes are more effective than stabs when you are trying to get away/stop an attack.
 
357Wheelgunner said:
Why would you possibly need to dump a knife in "the river" unless you commit a crime with it?

I'm new to this forum, is this kind of talk common?
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Some people have been known to carry a pocket knife in countries that lack an enlightened justice system.
 
I will vote for a Chinook or the soon to be Superhawk. Rock solid locks, great secure handles, and wicked blades.
Will look at the rescue knives, as legal concerns are to be thought of too.
 
moonwilson said:
I totally agree with this. I really wish the designer names were omitted from the blades themselves. I don't mind a little logo or somethingfor the designer on it (like on the Manix), but my Yojimbo, for example, says "Michael Janich Design" on it in 6 pt. type. If you google "Michael Janich", you get 50 some odd pages about Mr. Janich and his accomplishments as a martial artist- particulary skilled with edged weapons. Good advertising for him, probably not so good in the courtroom for someone who is forced to use the knife he designed. If I had my druthers, every Spyderco model would have just the bug logo, steel type and "Golden Colorado, USA Earth " (or Seki City) on it.
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Maybe they could put the maker's name, etc., on the box, and just leave it off the knife. That might help . . . a little, anyway.

I remember a thread somewhere on BF suggesting the marketing of a self-defense knife with an orange carrot and a rabbit's face on the handle, and the name "Fluffy Bunny Carrot Peeler" etched into the blade, for non-knife-user friendly vibes. Amusing thought.
 
Call me crazy, but for close contact work (and a reverse grip if necessary) the Poliwog, to me, has the right weight, size and overall feel of control one might need. I think it even came to market before Boker introduced their Sub Com series. One improvement I can think of that would make the Poliwog more ideal for such a role would be shallow thumb serrations (like the Native) at the rear of the blade spine for increased control.
 
:confused: probably the best self-defense knife, given the average level of actual training is the civilian however this is not a very practical carry. In addition in my experience if you hit something that provides a bit of resistance with a Hawk Bill there is a tendency for the knife be twisted sideways which can compromise your grip the civilian does have a large full handle to compensate for this but it is something to watch for in Hawk Bill's I think.

Out of what I own and I'm actually familiar with as far as folders are concerned, I would trust myself with my Chinnock you couldn't ask for a more secure handle the group offers good control while being rather far back, giving a little extra distance, the back swept blade would be rather forgiving and in a sense self-correcting if you anything hard buttons bones zippers that type of thing although you are sacrificing penetration. The back swept point offer some degree of back edge attack not deadly but enough to definitely get some attention. In a straight thrust again he wouldn't have as much penetration but what you did get would be wide and nasty and you would have good purchase with the big handle to twist the cut open to your hearts content.


apologize for mall ninjaesk content but you asked.

I also like the JD Smith don't personally have one but the length of the blade is almost 4 inches with a wicked point in good grinds yet the sophisticated an obviously collectible nature of this knife, in my eyes make it rather unthreatening for its size. Similar the Bob Lum folding Tonto titanium although the thickness of the blade make it more tactical and strictly self-defense.
 
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