DocJD
Basic Member
- Joined
- Jan 29, 2016
- Messages
- 11,408
...why anyone with the means to leave, would choose to stay ?just dont understand

At least the big cities . ( But that's true everywhere , IMO )
The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details:
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is $300 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/ - Order as many as you like, we have plenty.
...why anyone with the means to leave, would choose to stay ?just dont understand
Reasons why people are staying California...why anyone with the means to leave, would choose to stay ?
Doc the questions and post was for the op, not you. I didn't ask you, but if ya want to tell why you left your home state to retire and why go ahead.........why anyone with the means to leave, would choose to stay ?![]()
At least the big cities . ( But that's true everywhere , IMO )
Welp... "retirement " used to mean (ideally) you could finally go places and do things that were impossible with job and family obligations .Doc the questions and post was for the op, not you. I didn't ask you, but if ya want to tell why you left your home state to retire and why go ahead......
why would you be confused when someone's state was good enough for their career, raising family and their life, but not for retirement? it's not a weird or confusing question.
maybe I read the ops post wrong. thought he said retire?Welp... "retirement " used to mean (ideally) you could finally go places and do things that were impossible with job and family obligations .
Also , many retirees move for economic concerns .
IDK , but I hear that many individuals, families and businesses are fleeing CA ...not just retirees .
People have been "voting with their feet" for several years : https://ktla.com/news/california/ne...ich-california-counties-are-losing-residents/maybe I read the ops post wrong. thought he said retire?
why's staying in California that was good for your life, raising family and employment and such not good enough for retirement? not criticizing, just dont understand?
Lousy Infrastructure, pollution and costs. Used to be very different when I came here 25 years ago.
And let’s not forget that people were arrested for not wearing masks 2 years ago, on the open street, where I live.
You’ve been institutionalized due to the sunny weather. It IS significantly more expensive to live in CA.I have lived in CALIF for most my life 67 years, never had problems.
When I moved to the Bay Area to attend grad school, I was appalled by how filthy the air was compared to here in Indiana (the Region notwithstanding). What puzzled me was the number of people who frequently commented on how great the air quality was. I didn't understand how the heck they could draw that conclusion until I learned their baseline was Los Angeles and the surrounding area. Two feet above the rim of an erupting volcano would have better air quality than that cesspool, but that level of reality was lost on many of the Bay Area residents and their provincial collective worldview. Of course, that was par for the course for a micro-culture with most narrow minded, judgmental, intolerant people I've ever encountered in my 58 years. The irony . . . the irony . . .
I was there from 1987 - 1991, which was before your 25 year mark. I don't doubt you that things are different, which I infer suggests "worse" in almost every aspect. The last time I was there was in 1992 or 93 for the one year memorial for one of my aunties. I'm never, ever going back even to visit.
Just a little food for thought, I'm pretty sure that if you move out of the country US or it's territories, social security will deduct 30% of your pay as a penalty. Like I said I'm pretty sure but not 100% sure.
Sounds very complicated.It's more complicated than that. It is based on how long you have been outside the US and its territories, how long you stay when you come back to the US, which country you move to, how old you are at the time you "retire", how much money you earn while in the country in question, and how you answer a bunch of questions on a questionnaire the SSA sends you every year/two years (other stuff determines how often you get a questionnaire". If you are in some countries, you get nothing because the US doesn't send money to those countries.
probably on purpose.....Sounds very complicated.