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Your right. Automatics aren't the end all, be all of accurate time keeping. The certification is mearly stating it's an accurate automatic.

There's absolutely nothing at all wrong with Quartz watches. Hell, Omega makes Quartz models that are every bit as nice as thier Autos. I just happen to be partial to Automatics.

Why buy Sebenzas? There are other production knives that cut just as well and are less expensive. ;) (No slight on Sebenzas meant, just making a point)
 
Thanks for all the great advice, it really helped. I ended up buying my wife an Omega Mini Constellation with the diamond bezel, all stainless. Beautiful watch. After reading about everyones cool watches I decided to order one for myself. It's the Omega Co-Axial Deville with the new bracelet:eek: It's taking all my willpower not to rip the wrapping paper off the box right now:D


Merry Christmas,
Phillip
 
John,

That Seamaster IS a VERY NICE watch! (I have a couple of pretty nice Casio G-Shock watches that I'd trade ya...Heck, that's 2 watches for one!.:D.:D.).
 
Originally posted by bae
Some choices:

Very high end: F.P. Journe Resonance, F.P Journe Tourbillon, Dufour Duality.
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Oh yeah, F.P. Journe. If you need to ask, you can't afford it.
Not exactly the watch a guy wears while reaching in his pocket for the old Ryan Biohazard.

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Does sitting here sharpening my Spyderco Endura while wearing one count?
 
What does anyone know about the Revue Thommen Airspeed Chronograph?

The company appears to be in the midst of a financial collapse so, I am a little reluctant to pursue this watch. Also, I have failed to find any record of a sales network in the United States of America.

Anybody have comments with regards to quality, stability of the company, purchase price and value, durability, etc?

The thing that attracts me to this watch is the clarity of the face. Pictures can be deceiving though. Any revues or pointers to factual information would be appreciated.

TIA,
Sid
 
Sid,

I have a Revue Airspeed, with the Lemania 5100 chrono, which to my tastes is one of the most readable chrono watch faces. It's smaller than every other 5100 watch I've seen (Tutima, Fortis, Sinn, for example, which are all like 40mm or bigger)at about 30mm across the face. It's a nice watch, titanium and with a kevlar strap and they have a website--here's the page with their American agents(they do show up on eBay from time to time as well). I can't comment on the other questions you have, since I got this second hand and don't follow the company.....

http://www.revue-thommen.ch/world-agents.asp?region=north-america.

If you're curious I'll take a pic or two of mine and email it to you.
 
Oh, forgot to mention what is arguably the most sophisticated and expensive production watch in the world - the IWC Grand Complication:

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Definitely not meant to be a beater, of course, considering the sticker price! ($195,000 with leather strap; am scared to hear what they want for the bracelet variant above!) :D
 
Complicated? Yes.

Sophisticated? No. Have you ever tried one of these puppies on? It's like lashing on a hockey puck. Audemars and Patek make much more elegant grand complications.

Expensive? At sticker, yes. At street prices, not too bad, considering what you get.
 
Interesting that beneath the complexity lies the omnipresent Valjoux 7750.

I was thinking more tuna can than hockey puck, actually. Perhaps tuna can lacks a certain dignity...
 
Nah - I've got a bunch of tuna can watches. The IWC is definitely much more puckish.
 
I love Rolex bashers and would be horologists! The Rolex Bashers spend a lot of time finding ANY report of how awful or overpriced a Rolex is and never understand why a person would purchase a Rolex. The infamous TimeZone article about a Rolex Explorer II is a great example. I seriously suspect that a faked Rolex was involved! The magazine WatchTime has reviewed a Rolex Sub against an Omega and most recently the 3140 movement Rolex Daytona against the new 3141 Daytona. Nowhere in either article is there a mention of the things found in the TimeZone article. Pictures are also included of the movements. I will state this once more and then not post again about this matter. Rolex's are owned and USED by people who put thier lives on the line and need a reliable watch. Whether it's to time the hour and date of a pickup by plane in Alaska to how long have I been in this radiation area. My expereince is with 5 Rolex's I have purchased including an Explorer II. I have a Submariner going on 21 years old that has never lost a a beat! When it finally goes in for overhaul, it will NOT be refinshed. Certainly those who have dwelled in the horological area will agree that there are many watches with much better finish and internal decoration than a Rolex. These watches can cost up to and exceed a couple of hundred K. Most individuals think a Rolex costs a lot of money and for most people this is true. But in the horological world, Rolex's are on the low end of the price scale. It's like most collecting where the nuances and complications(pun intended) of collecting far outweigh the original purpose of the device and the greater the amount of detail there is about a watch, the better the horologist/collector likes it. Rolex wearers really don't care and can take pride in wearing a watch that can be counted on as they LIVE thier lives. Rolex wearers are not concerned about a little scratch on their Rolex and refuse to hide them in safe deposit boxes and sneak peaks at them once and a while. I am not trying to flame anyone but only trying to present what a Rolex wearer's perspective is and counter the expertise of individuals who may not have had the benefit of over 20 years with Rolex. -Dick
 
Originally posted by budrichard
The infamous TimeZone article about a Rolex Explorer II is a great example. I seriously suspect that a faked Rolex was involved!
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The TimeZone review, by Walt Odets, was of a Rolex Explorer, *not* an Explorer II. Have you read it?

As to your accusations of the Rolex being faked, well, I know Walt Odets, I know from which authorized dealer he got the watch ( unopened, NIB) and I can assure you there was nothing fake about it. The watch he looked at was as it came from the factory.

What in the review did you disagree with? Be specific.
 
"Seriouly suspect' is not an accusation, but if you insist OK, accuzation, take me to court. Explorer, Explorer II, what does it matter? Yes, I read the article. Bae, do you own a Rolex? Have you used Rolex's where your life depended on them for 21 years? If you can answer affirmatively, than you can present your experience(data) on Rolex watches. If not then you are using a small data base of information on which to base your opinions rather than fact. Rolex wearers couldn't care less what was in the Timezone article and will not lose any sleep over the results. Your attempts to deflect my observations by questioning if I actually read the article and the difference between an Explorer and Explorer II are typical of using any descrepency to discredit observations presented. Present your experience please. -Dick
 
No doubt there are plenty of "Rolex bashers and would be horologists", but it's a mistake to dismiss Walt Odets in this fashion. Have you read any of Walt's other articles? A good assortment of them have been collected at the Horologium (a section of the Timezone website).
 
Originally posted by budrichard
if you insist OK, accuzation, take me to court.

If you insist...

Explorer, Explorer II, what does it matter?

Because the two watches have very different movements, and until recently, were aimed at different price points. This matters...

Bae, do you own a Rolex?

No. I own six of them, and have another on the way. I'm wearing one this very minute, in fact.

If you can answer affirmatively, than you can present your experience(data) on Rolex watches.

Sure. My Rolexes are among the more accurate watches I own, and hold up under all sorts of abusive circumstances. However, their movements are mass-produced, relatively unrefined, and poorly finished. This is a simple observation of fact, not a bashing of your beloved Rolex. (This is also probably why they are so accurate and reliable.)

If not then you are using a small data base of information on which to base your opinions rather than fact.

I think not.

I own well over a hundred fine Swiss watches, with price points from the low to the very high. From simple time-only pieces to significant complications. I have disassembled and examined dozens of different movements. I have visited the workshops of several of the top watch creators on the planet. I think I have developed a sound basis for my opinions.

The Rolex Walt presented was very revealing to me of how Rolex production must operate. Have you ever been involved in manufacturing engineering? A single article, with multiple defects, coming off a production line tells you volumes about the process control involved...

Your attempts to deflect my observations by questioning if I actually read the article and the difference between an Explorer and Explorer II are typical of using any descrepency to discredit observations presented. Present your experience please. -Dick

So, now, what basis do you have for your accusation of fakery?

Have a nice day.
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Originally posted by notdos
I hope some of you watch guys can help me figure this out. I never realized there were so many cool watches till I started following some of the watch posts. I've decided to buy my wife a "nice" watch for Christmas but I don't really know as much as I'd like to know about the brands that are available. Of course, I'm familiar with the Rolex name and I've heard of Tag, Raymond Weil, Omega, Bertolucci, Ebel, Baume & Mercier and others but I don't have a clue what's good and what isn't. I think I want an automatic movement but maybe there is some reason why I don't. And of course, I have a budget. So, any and all opinions would be appreciated.

Phillip
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Amazing how we got from this post to where we are today.

Here is a pic of the watch I am wearing right this instant.
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Amazing how we got from this post to where we are today.
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Ain't it the truth. I'm convinced that about two-thirds of the replies never read the part about me wanting to buy a watch for my wife :confused: Although I am learning a lot.:)

Let's keep it going
Phillip
 
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