Best waterstones for sharpening S110v?

I would without doubt buy some diamond plates for anything with more than 4% Vanadium. As Kwackster has posted, nothing but diamond and CBN will properly shape the carbides.

That said, I do like my Shapton Glass stones for sharpening folders. I have sharpened most high end steels with them and didn't notice any lack of edge formation like I have noticed with other waterstones on high Carbide steels. They easily plow through steels like S35VN and ZDP but do show a slowing of cutting action on S90V and S110V, although still producing proper levels of sharpness for the stone used.

I have stopped them in their tracks with CPM-10V though. I can get the 500 to produce a decent edge although it feels like a 4000 grit edge once done with about the same polish. The Apex has all the characteristics of an abrasive that failed to do the job though, excessive burring, lacking keen sharpness, and as mentioned, an excessive polish for the grit level.

I would still recommend some Shapton Glass stones like the 500 and 2k but I would also recommend a Coarse DMT and a balsa strop with 1 micron diamond for your high wear resistant steels. That one diamond plate and strop can produce some wicked edges on high carbide steels and provide awesome cutting power.

Sharpened this without any issues on my Shapton Glass stones, 320 and 500 grit, left a nice aggressive edge. :)

About the same as my 320 and 400 grit Mold Master SIC stones from my experience.

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I have to take that back a little bit. I had a glazing issue on my 500 caused by not cleaning my Glass Lapping Plate. I was sharpening a kitchen knife last night in Aogami Super and the 500 was loading and putting a near mirror edge on the knife.

I cleaned my lapping plate and got my SG500 to start cutting properly again. Ate up my 10v without issue.
 
For the original posters sake can we agree that shapton glass would be one of the best water stones for s10v (cpm s110v)? Russ
 
For the original posters sake can we agree that shapton glass would be one of the best water stones for s10v (cpm s110v)? Russ

Yep, as good as you can get before diamond.
 
Jim, I'm glad you said this as I have no problem sharpening S60V with a Norton fine India stone. Which is as fine as I take an edge. Whether I plow off the vanadium carbides or not it still gets sharp. Beside these carbides are so fine only a X X fine diamond gets fine enough to touch them and I don't take my edges that fine. DM
 
I have to take that back a little bit. I had a glazing issue on my 500 caused by not cleaning my Glass Lapping Plate. I was sharpening a kitchen knife last night in Aogami Super and the 500 was loading and putting a near mirror edge on the knife.

I cleaned my lapping plate and got my SG500 to start cutting properly again. Ate up my 10v without issue.

Yeah that might do it. :D

Sometimes my Mold Masters glass over too and I have to lap them some, not too often though as I can keep them pretty clean with Windex during use. :thumbup:

Haven't used the Shaptons enough to have any problems yet with that, use them for my personal knives only and the Mold Masters for everything else.
 
Jim, I'm glad you said this as I have no problem sharpening S60V with a Norton fine India stone. Which is as fine as I take an edge. Whether I plow off the vanadium carbides or not it still gets sharp. Beside these carbides are so fine only a X X fine diamond gets fine enough to touch them and I don't take my edges that fine. DM

I think a lot does depend on refinement, below a certain level it really doesn't matter.

Since I don't normally go above 600 anymore and stay in the 400 grit to 500 grit range, no finer than 30 Micron it really doesn't matter.
 
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