Oh it will penetrate if it lands correctly. I am not disputing that. I am saying it won't stop the attacker in his tracks. Only in Hollywood can you drop a man with one hit from a hawk.El Cid, i just find it hard to believe that if you were to hit someone with the VTAC that it wouldnt make any penetration whatsoever... perhaps throwing it might not as well as hacking but i just see a nasty wound from the VTAC if it were used as a weapon.... maybe i am wrong...