beware... 153UH CHINA in disguise

Let's all play nice. :D

thawk, I like your analysis. I'm not sure how or why this seller came into this Taylor knife, but he did, and he's selling it. And if you compare the pictures to the ones of the genuine US made Schrades he is selling, he made certain you could read the USA tank stamp on the others, but the CHINA stamp on the Taylor knife is conveniently hidden behind the guard.

As for name calling, something must have gotten under his skin for him to come out swinging as he did. But it did made it clear to anyone considering bidding just what they are bidding on. And I dare say, it might give a hint at what a transaction with this seller might be like.
 
I'm nota going to beat this into the ground, but every time I visit the schrade forum, there seems to be a thread like this. The ebay seller in question did seem to have a testy tone when he made the moron comment, but then, how many of you sent him ugly messages"

If you are all into slamming sellers of Schrades for not making of big deal of them not disclosing the country of origin, why don't you go after a big dog, instead of a minor league ebay peddler?

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...Tools+&cName=HandTools&sid=IDx20070921x00003d
 
If that seller was selling a Schrade, there would be little issue here. He is not. He is selling a Taylor Brands knife made for them to resemble an American made Schrade, using nostalgia markings. Schrade is no longer manufacturing knives and hasn't since 2004. If the seller made it clear that he was selling an imported copy with nostalgia markings, there would be no issue here. If the seller had simply said when asked, "Yes, it is a Taylor Brands knife made in China", there wouldn't be much of an issue here.

Take on bigger dogs? I have had discussions with the folks at Taylor brands. Their knives no longer bear a light "China" etch, but are stamped with the country of origin. Their packaging is no longer a copy of the Imperial Schrade packaging right down to the American flag.

Since you seem to know knives, use the Sears link you posted and take a close look at the fit and finish of the knife. Real close. Then look at the reconstituted leather sheath. Tell us what you see.
 
OldKnife007 said:
I'm nota going to beat this into the ground, but every time I visit the schrade forum, there seems to be a thread like this. The ebay seller in question did seem to have a testy tone when he made the moron comment, but then, how many of you sent him ugly messages"

If you are all into slamming sellers of Schrades for not making of big deal of them not disclosing the country of origin, why don't you go after a big dog, instead of a minor league ebay peddler?

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...Tools+&cName=HandTools&sid=IDx20070921x00003d
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I think it is worse with an individual than a big company, because most that are selling knives on ebay, have some idea of what they are selling, and realize that there is a big difference between the original, and the current production knives... Especially people that have a track record of buying and selling knives on ebay.
All the seller had to do was put an explanation of what the knife truly is in the add, and there would be no issues. No reason for them to be so offensive about being asked the question. I have to believe that the seller in question had high hopes of catching some unknowing buyer, and making a good profit on the knife. I could be completely wrong though. Why else would someone put a reserve on a 10 dollar knife?
Even if it was an original and I asked the same question, and got the response they gave, I would not bid on it...

Its a very big deal to people that know the difference. For someone that is just getting started, they may be perfectly happy with the current production knives.

Fortunately there are places like BF's, where people can learn a lot about knives, and hopefully not get ripped off .
 
I think there is a valid point in helping new collectors of Schrade and this thread should be used to expose such .
There is a American seller of Shitrade has From United States or from America in the Ebay Browser under the listed heading so buyers in Australia think it is made in America .
I have Schrade collectors in Australia cry to me all the time about getting done ,but most are too proud and say" I should have asked ,it was my fault"" won't happen again" mentallity .
Last week one mate of mine got done for $250 . And I have given him some Schrade knives to make up for a mongerel who has done him over .
So yes collectively there could be 10's of thousands if not 100's of thousands being ripped off Globally for Shitrade .
A shitrade seller that is honest and up front about the item they are selling commands respect in my book ,which leads me to bid or Buy anything else they have that is descent .
The American seller who has been ripping Australians off " For Now" has been scared off with our Australian way of Black banning collectively which has been helped by Australian sellers / Collectors of the real Schrade working together to inform and expose the shitrade crooks to collectors . It is our obligation I believe to our fellow Schrade collectors New and old .
But when he relists to catch one out I'll post his listing here so You blokes can sort him out as well .
 
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how many of you sent him ugly messages"
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No one, I hope. We don't need that kind of attention here in our quiet little corner of the internet.

If you are all into slamming sellers of Schrades for not making of big deal of them not disclosing the country of origin, why don't you go after a big dog, instead of a minor league ebay peddler?

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0070921x00003d
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That Sears ad clearly shows the entire tang stamp, which is a dead giveaway to the origin.

IMO, the eBay seller purposefully photographed and described the item in such a way as to deceive inexperienced buyers.
 
From one who has been burned by "honest" sellers that guarantee their product I say buyer beware. The seller of one of my stings was very polite until I got a Chinese instead of USA then all communication stopped. Because it was so inexpensive I chopped it up and sent it back to him. I still haven't heard from him. I wonder why? Boy that felt good to do too.
 
You should have video taped it . I would have paid to see that .
That seller sounds like one of those quiet achievers.
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thawk said:
Oldknife007: There are a lot of sellers that deceive on purpose, and sometimes are knife collectors that took the bait themselves, and then want to get their money back. Others are clearly trying to prey on new collectors that are eager to build a collection. Manure spreading here? In the hard core Schrade U.S.A. forum? Against non U.S.A. replicas? Nah, not us! :D

If a seller doesn't provide clear pictures or documentation of what they are selling, and especially if they are deceiving on purpose, they deserve a load of crap. That seller offers returns, so maybe just a small load for him, and he opened himself up with the moron comment, although it was probably in self defense.

yes but totally unneccessary.
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