Beware: Paypal Scam - IMPORTANT

Daniel Koster

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I got a very disturbing email this morning that said there might be security concerns with my Paypal account (indeed I have been taxing it heavily lately ~$2000 over the last 3 days).

So, to be careful, I did a little "investigating" and found out it was a bonified scam intended to grab your password. After they have your password, they can access your account and charge the heck out of it.

Here's how it goes:

First you get an email like this:
(I have added the **** marks)

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Dear ***@********.com,


We recently reviewed your account, and suspect that your PayPal account may have been accessed by an unauthorized third party. Protecting the security of your account and of the PayPal network is our primary concern.

Therefore, as a preventative measure, we have temporarily limited access to sensitive PayPal account features. Click below in order to regain access to your account:

'https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_login-run

For more information about how to protect your account, please visit PayPal's Security Center, accessible via the "Security Center" link located at the bottom of each page of the PayPal website.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and appreciate your assistance in helping us maintain the integrity of the entire PayPal system. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
The PayPal Team


Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address cannot be answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the "Help" link in the header of any page.


PayPal Email ID PP198
PayPal Email ID PP316

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If you click the link, it takes you to this window - which looks like a bonified Paypal login screen:

pp1.jpg



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It's very clever and quite tempting indeed.

I went back to my email and when I moved the mouse over the link, I get this link instead:

'http://arturoshinias.com/images/hide/index2.htm
(go ahead, have a look....;))


So, back at IE......just for kicks, I hit Ctrl+N (for a new window, using Internet Explorer) and this is what came up:

pp2.jpg



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See how it "hides" the real web address? The top address is the real one that was hidden on the first page (just as you can disable toolbars using View >> Toolbars). The 2nd web address is the "fake one" that is part of a webpage designed to look like a toolbar at the top with a Paypal entry page below. Follow what I'm saying? (may require a few re-readings to get what I'm talking about)


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Here's what the real Paypal login looks like:

pp3.jpg



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Please beware of any emails you get requesting this information. I have checked my paypal account (using the correct login, of course) and there is nothing wrong with it.

I can only imagine that the malicious spammer grabbed my email somehow from the interenet. Perhaps from whois.net or maybe even from paypal itself. Who knows....


Just be careful.


Dan
 
Oh, and here's a link to the website that is hosting this malicious scam. I say we should send a few "polite" emails to let him know that whether he put this up willingly or not, it better come down RIGHT NOW.

http://arturoshinias.com/contacto.asp

Don't put your real email address in the blank but include this link in your message:
-http://arturoshinias.com/images/hide/index2.htm


....then click "enviar"





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Be sure to report that to PayPal as well. They have a link for just that purpose from your legitimate account page.

Whenever I get one of these things (and I've gotten them pretending to be from PayPal, Earthlink, eBay, and others), the first thing I do is open a new browser and log in to my account through the legitimate site's front page. If there were anything truly wrong with my account, I would find out about it mighty quick.

Then I use whatever scam reporting options provided (all the folks I mentioned have one kind or another) and send along the full headers from the spoof mail.

vv
J.O.
 
I wouldn't email them. arwin whois says it's a guy in mexico with web site services provided by a company in Boca Raton FL.

Domain Name: ARTUROSHINIAS.COM
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com

**Going to whois.melbourneit.com for full record.**


Domain Name.......... arturoshinias.com
Creation Date........ 2002-07-19
Registration Date.... 2002-07-19
Expiry Date.......... 2004-07-19
Organisation Name.... Daniel Velazquez
Organisation Address. Calle 7 num 129-a
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Boca Del Rio
Organisation Address. 94294
Organisation Address. AA
Organisation Address. MEXICO

Admin Name........... Daniel Velazquez
Admin Address........ Calle 7 num 129-a
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Boca Del Rio
Admin Address........ 94294
Admin Address........ AA
Admin Address........ MEXICO
Admin Email.......... danielvg@ver.megared.net.mx
Admin Phone.......... 2299216706
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ VERIO VERIO
Tech Address......... 12345 Blue Lake Dr.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Boca Raton
Tech Address......... 33431
Tech Address......... FL
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... hostmaster@VERIO-HOSTING.COM
Tech Phone........... 888-663-6648
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... ns0.nic-reg-dns.com
Name Server.......... ns1.nic-reg-dns.com
 
using the form on his website doesn't capture anything (not even your email address - unless you're dumb enough to type it in there - I checked out the code).

It's possible this guy is completely unaware....or just an idiot hacker trying to make a scam.....who knows. But he sure's going to get a mouthful from me....:D
 
I believe Paypal only refers to you as the name you have on the account, not your e-mail address. Anything not referring to you by name is guaranteed bogus.
 
Good catch, Dan.

They're getting better at these. The other day, I got a Nigerean-style email that did NOT have lots of riduculous misspellings.

Call your local FBI office.

They might be able to trace these SOB's through the ISP.
 
THANKS for the warnings. Lots of HFM (human fecal matter) out there these days.
 
Thanks for the warning!

I think there should be an open season on these people!

My tolerance for theives has run out :mad:
 
I have gotten that email, and did not go through the process because I was too lazy...

see being lazy can be a good thing
 
FallingKnife said:
Good catch, Dan.
The other day, I got a Nigerean-style email that did NOT have lots of riduculous misspellings.


RE: the Nigerian scam...I love that one. It's my all time favorite email scam and when several of my friends, colleagues, online acquaintances, etc. had received and I hadn't, I really felt left out :~)

All those spelling & grammatical errors are jut plain entertaining! I'm dying to know if there are folks who actually sent money based on that email, hoping to receive millions in return. It asked for several thousand bucks IIRC. You think there are people who fell victim?

In all seriousness, thanks for sharing Pendative. I guess a good rule of thumb is *never* respond to requests for info by using a link in an email. For any accounts you may have, from credit cards to ebay to paypal, only login manually, never via an email's link.

-pb
 
Thanks Dan I get those too
the one I get the most is one saying it's from E-bay. trying to get me to go to there web sites.. :grumpy:

I just log on to the e-bay or paypal the normal way and never from an e-mail.
as you say they can hide the real addy if you don't know what to look for.
you guys can report these things
just by adding spoof in back of the e-mails
like spoof@paypal.com or spoof@ebay.com
but the real sites have a place to see if the same spoof has been reported or not.

edited to add
what I want to know is how the He!! do you disable those #$%%^@ing
messenger service pop ups :grumpy:
 
hopefully a few people will see this who have yet to receive the bogus email and will be properly warned and informed.

It nearly got me because of my recent paypal activity. Thank goodness I had my thinkin' cap on straight...
 
as a rule of thumb..I just delete any email that askes me for my account information on my credit cards, paypal account. phone records. AOL, etc..Go ahead cancel my account..see if I give a rats rear end..

A real company would never threaten to disable. discontinue, or quit doing business with thier customers. Its the death knoll of a business if they act this way..
 
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