Bg-42?

The_Monkeyboy · Dec 10, 2008

If I am up in Alaska fishing for salmon, I will remember that. But the odds of me doing that any time soon are a bit slim...

-Mb

DWK2 · Dec 10, 2008

Hopefully one day you will get the chance. Well worth the time and expense when you have reached a point at which you can afford it.

That's also the basis for my opinion that the Buck BG-42 has good corrosion resistance. I've had a couple stainless knives (mainly ATS-34 or AUS8A)
develop pitting on AK trips but the Buck has taken a couple weeks of rain and whitewater with only a few discoloration spots that came off with Flitz and 0000 steel wool. Not exactly a scientific test, but the BG-42 has performed well for me in wet weather.

DancesWithKnives

fudo · Dec 10, 2008

I have 2 Buck 110's in BG-42. I'm a big fan of BG-42 now.:thumbup:

Guyon · Dec 10, 2008

Excellent steel as long as the heat treatment is there. My favorite steel for Buck knives.

elkins45 · Dec 10, 2008

nozh2002 said:
See my edge retention test results here:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=589139

This is roughly rating for different stee, so you may see where BG42 is, but it also greatly depends on manufacturer:

1. Dozier heat treated D2.
2. Yuna Hard II ZDP-189 (second run)
3. SwampRat SR101 (52100)
4. Spyderco Mule CPM M4
5. KaBar Dozier D2
6. J.P.Holmes CPM 10V
7. Buck BG42
8. Buck CPM154
9. Yuna Hard II ZDP189
10. Buck CPM S30V
11. Kershaw CPM S110V
12. Fehrman R3V (CPM 3V)
13. G-Sakai SRS15
14. Kershaw CPM S30V
15. Buck 420HC
16. Busse INIFI
17. Benchmade M2
18. Ivan Kirpichev Bulat (wootz)
19. Kiku Matsuda OU31
20. Diamond Knives Friction Forged D2.
21. Kershaw Sandvic 1326
22. Fallkniven 3G (SGPS)
23. RosArms 110x18
24. CRKT AUS8
25. Kershaw SG2
26. Benchmade D2

Thanks, Vassili.

I find it amazing that Buck 420HC outperforms Benchmade M2. HSS should hold an incredible edge unless it isn't hardened to full potential.

Lots of interesting results in this ranking.

nozh2002 · Dec 11, 2008

elkins45 said:
I find it amazing that Buck 420HC outperforms Benchmade M2. HSS should hold an incredible edge unless it isn't hardened to full potential.

Lots of interesting results in this ranking.

This is pretty rough ranking based on results from the table and M2 was third to test - if you check original thread I talk a bit about adaptation problem, so it hard to compare first tested steels with latest tested.

Thanks, Vassili.

gine · Dec 12, 2008

nozh2002 said:
See my edge retention test results here:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=589139

This is roughly rating for different stee, so you may see where BG42 is, but it also greatly depends on manufacturer:

1. Dozier heat treated D2.
2. Yuna Hard II ZDP-189 (second run)
3. SwampRat SR101 (52100)
4. Spyderco Mule CPM M4
5. KaBar Dozier D2
6. J.P.Holmes CPM 10V
7. Buck BG42
8. Buck CPM154
9. Yuna Hard II ZDP189
10. Buck CPM S30V
11. Kershaw CPM S110V
12. Fehrman R3V (CPM 3V)
13. G-Sakai SRS15
14. Kershaw CPM S30V
15. Buck 420HC
16. Busse INIFI
17. Benchmade M2
18. Ivan Kirpichev Bulat (wootz)
19. Kiku Matsuda OU31
20. Diamond Knives Friction Forged D2.
21. Kershaw Sandvic 1326
22. Fallkniven 3G (SGPS)
23. RosArms 110x18
24. CRKT AUS8
25. Kershaw SG2
26. Benchmade D2

Thanks, Vassili.

Thanx vassili for doing those tests,all of us on the forums appriciate it.:thumbup:.I would like to see spyderco's vg-10,cpm s90v and cpm d2 in the line up to see how it stacks up as well.(just a future suggestion).

longbow · Dec 12, 2008

I've owned a few knives in BG42 and I think it is the best steel made for knives going, outside of properly heat treated 01 in fixed blades. BG takes a very fine edge that is SHARP as all get out. The best iteration I have had of it is a Lightfoot folder. keepem sharp

sodak · Dec 12, 2008

RKH said:
With the exception of Bob Dozier's D2 which is damn great I would go with BG42. I understand that BG42 was getting harder to get. I have a couple of Tom Krein D2 small fixed blades that will hang with Bob Dozier's D2.
RKH

I have to agree wholeheartedly with these remarks. I think, especially in Buck knives with their heat treatment and geometry, BG 42 is the way to go.

The_Monkeyboy said:
How hard is it to sharpen compared to something like 420 HC? Or D2?

-Mb

I don't think any of these are hard to sharpen. If they are ground correctly, and the Buck 110 is, they sharpen up very easily.

Reeek · Dec 12, 2008

I have a BG-42 Millie and besides the fact that is scary sharp I also feel like it is a fine grained steel and that is part of why it gets so sharp. The edge feels a lot like a very sharp VG-10 - super smooth and fine

Capt. Carl · Dec 12, 2008

I can't tell a difference between BG-42 and S30V

Unsub · Dec 12, 2008

I thought BG42 was a Russian steel? First the west made 440C as the first super steel and then Russia followed with BG-42 as a similar steel but with a bit less chromium.

One issue with comparing production knives for different steel qualities is you have different edge geometry and heat treat. That is why I am so interested in the Spyderco Mules.

nozh2002 · Dec 12, 2008

Unsub said:
I thought BG42 was a Russian steel? First the west made 440C as the first super steel and then Russia followed with BG-42 as a similar steel but with a bit less chromium.

One issue with comparing production knives for different steel qualities is you have different edge geometry and heat treat. That is why I am so interested in the Spyderco Mules.

BG-42 is Latrobe steel - http://www.matweb.com/search/datasheettext.aspx?matguid=77b38b992c164227a696dee96ec6478c
I this it is American.

Russia is not following West in Metallurgy, no need. They have their own strong over hundreds years school and manage to compete in Space and Military Jets pretty successfully even during collapse and this is all recuire good steels and alloys.

It was West adopting Russian Electro Slug Remeltiung methods as well as powder metallurgy was in widely use during Soviet era all over USSR.

Russian closest analog 110x18MShD - ball bearing stainless for space and military see RosArms knives, but I am not sure Russian knifemakers may do same with 110x18MShD what Paul Boss doing for BG-42. On my tests it does not perform as good as BG42, however it may be performance stability issue, I see reports on RosArms subforum about three deers being prepared without resharpening with RosArms knife.

Thanks, Vassili.

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