Big Budget Bowie - Cold Steel Drop Forged Survivalist

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I picked up a CS Drop Forged Survivalist on a fluke while looking at knives on line. I've always loved the lines of the Recon Scout, so this was too hard to pass up for $59 shipped. It is essentially a one-piece Recon Scout forged from 52100.

This is an updated version with a gray finish and plastic inset scales. The milling for the scales reduced the weight from the old version as well. It’s listed as 15.5 oz., but many reviewers weigh it at 14.5. It comes with a very good plastic sheath too. These CS plastic sheaths are under rated in my book. They’re tough, light, hold the knife very well, and weigh little.

The blade came razor sharp and stayed that way throughout my short yardcraft session. The coating immediately began to rub off on the wood. The edge still cut well and shaved surprisingly well. I imagine it would really slice if stripped.
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This knife has a reputation for being tough, as it should. So, I first batoned off a small piece of rock hard, bone dry Live Oak. This is nasty wood and the blade had to be beat through it. The coating immediately started to smear off on the wood, but the blade hammered on through. I didn’t baton a wheel barrow full. People have already done that online. I just need a piece to work on.
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Next, I wanted to see how it would carve a feather stick. It did a surprisingly good job. Imagine how it’d do stripped. This is great considering the horrible wood I was using. This stuff is beyond words tough.
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I then chopped some pieces from a stick of apple wood, or that’s what my neighbor told me it was. All I can say is it’s hard as a rock. The knife chopped off some small pieces, enough to show me it’ll chop. It has a pretty neutral balance, which does not help in chopping, but it would make a great fighter! Anyway, it’ll chop anything you reasonably need to chop, short of seasoned oak firewood.
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I did t want to spend too much time, since the sun was setting, but I wanted to knock out a quick tent stake. Easy enough.
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I took a minute to carve. It did fine.
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I finished up by testing the tip. I dug a small hollow out of the live oak. I started by driving the tip in and prying the wood. I followed up by twisting the tip in the wood. It held up great!
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All in all, I really like this knife. It’s a big survival/combat type blade, so it won’t be a great bushcrafter. It’s also a fighting style clip point, so it’s not a dedicated chopper. But, I believe it’ll do most of what we like to do in the woods pretty well. Ultimately, it’s a big, cheap, fun knife at a great price. It should last for generations. 52100 is a good and tough steel, and CS is known for giving whatever steel they use a great heat treat. Thanks for looking!
 
Good report. I am very interested in this knife but on paper it seemed pretty heavy for its size. What are your thoughts?

EDIT TO ADD: I am looking for a large Bowie for field use and defense. My first thought was the Trailmaster, but Cold Steel hasn't made a non San Mai version in literally years now. I am uninterested in the San Mai version as I have seen too many reviews claiming that it is chipping under normal use.

The new Survivalist is interesting but heavy. I am also looking at maybe giving up on Cold Steel for this and going with someone else. Bark River, for example, looks like they make a few very nice looking Bowies in A2 steel-- all with what seems to be top notch sheaths to boot.
 
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Great write up, thanks for sharing. “Yardcraft”.... I love it! I’m not able to see the pics unfortunately.

I have gone back and forth on this model. I have a lot of respect for the utilitarian nature of the knife and it’s inherent strength in design. The price is certainly enticing.
 
Great review! I can't see the pics either. Where's the balance point?

You can always find better if you are willing to spend, but for this design, for the price I don't see how anyone can beat it.
 
I picked up a CS Drop Forged Survivalist on a fluke while looking at knives on line. I've always loved the lines of the Recon Scout, so this was too hard to pass up for $59 shipped. It is essentially a one-piece Recon Scout forged from 52100.

This is an updated version with a gray finish and plastic inset scales. The milling for the scales reduced the weight from the old version as well. It’s listed as 15.5 oz., but many reviewers weigh it at 14.5. It comes with a very good plastic sheath too. These CS plastic sheaths are under rated in my book. They’re tough, light, hold the knife very well, and weigh little.

The blade came razor sharp and stayed that way throughout my short yardcraft session. The coating immediately began to rub off on the wood. The edge still cut well and shaved surprisingly well. I imagine it would really slice if stripped.
ca871a3a-18cd-4891-8074-efb7d3af1faf-jpeg.964042


This knife has a reputation for being tough, as it should. So, I first batoned off a small piece of rock hard, bone dry Live Oak. This is nasty wood and the blade had to be beat through it. The coating immediately started to smear off on the wood, but the blade hammered on through. I didn’t baton a wheel barrow full. People have already done that online. I just need a piece to work on.
222cb005-48b5-49c1-8423-0190bba2bf11-jpeg.964050


Next, I wanted to see how it would carve a feather stick. It did a surprisingly good job. Imagine how it’d do stripped. This is great considering the horrible wood I was using. This stuff is beyond words tough.
10e791e9-1567-49a5-91c7-ceb5d20f9e23-jpeg.964054


I then chopped some pieces from a stick of apple wood, or that’s what my neighbor told me it was. All I can say is it’s hard as a rock. The knife chopped off some small pieces, enough to show me it’ll chop. It has a pretty neutral balance, which does not help in chopping, but it would make a great fighter! Anyway, it’ll chop anything you reasonably need to chop, short of seasoned oak firewood.
f2b30707-a818-4565-aa8e-b16f9ccca8cc-jpeg.964062


I did t want to spend too much time, since the sun was setting, but I wanted to knock out a quick tent stake. Easy enough.
b972d1b6-88ea-4311-b4e9-ce9d16daeb6b-jpeg.964064


I took a minute to carve. It did fine.
9d87e070-2b45-424a-9375-a5d5fe6c51bc-jpeg.964065


I finished up by testing the tip. I dug a small hollow out of the live oak. I started by driving the tip in and prying the wood. I followed up by twisting the tip in the wood. It held up great!
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All in all, I really like this knife. It’s a big survival/combat type blade, so it won’t be a great bushcrafter. It’s also a fighting style clip point, so it’s not a dedicated chopper. But, I believe it’ll do most of what we like to do in the woods pretty well. Ultimately, it’s a big, cheap, fun knife at a great price. It should last for generations. 52100 is a good and tough steel, and CS is known for giving whatever steel they use a great heat treat. Thanks for looking!
:) Thanks ! Great review .

But it would be nice to be able to see your pics , also . ;):thumbsup:
 
Hmmm... let me see what I can do on the pics.

The weight is not bad at all, and I’m picky with knife weight. It’s very well balanced and the balance point is just barely in front of the guard.
 
And, I stripped and blued the knife this morning. I used Brownells Oxpho Blue and it turned out great IMHO. As a side note, I could only remove the screws from one side of the handle. The other side screws wouldn’t budge. I removed one side and just tapped the bushing CS used to connect the screws.
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I can see the pics fine. Looks like they're linked from BCUSA so I wonder if there's some connection there as I'm logged in there as well.

Nice review. I've thought that would be a fun knife to beat one, but I have lots of those types already. With the handle inserts, it seems like it would be more comfortable to use. The exposed metal was also a hesitation for me, living in Michigan and knowing how quickly metal can suck the heat out of your hands.
 
The handle inserts are a nice touch. I have one of the earlier models without them and can see why they were added. Are you sure the cut outs in the handle were changed? I wouldn’t mind adding inserts to mine. Drilling two holes is possible (think carbide) but there’s no way for me to change the cut outs themselves.
 
The handle inserts are a nice touch. I have one of the earlier models without them and can see why they were added. Are you sure the cut outs in the handle were changed? I wouldn’t mind adding inserts to mine. Drilling two holes is possible (think carbide) but there’s no way for me to change the cut outs themselves.
The cut outs appear quite a bit deeper and seem to have shaved about 4 oz. Of weight.
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Oh yeah, totally different. I’d need to carve a custom set. Thanks for the pictures, they showed it perfectly. Much appreciated!
 
I decided to make a sheath as the plastic one was functional, but didn’t fit with the stripped and blued knife. It’s not perfect, but I’m happy with the results. The snap is a design of my own, I believe, as I’ve never seen it before. The edge side of the retention strap is two parts and uses a small D ring. Upon unsnapping, the edge side flips back out of the way to keep from getting cut. Anyway, here it is!

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