BIG DC ?

Robdude

Robdude

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I love how satin wears.. I havent looked back since moving from coated to bare INFI..
What's the low down on this BIG DC finish as a user? How does it hold up? an is the stain resistance still good?
 
I believe the corrosion resistance isn't as good as satin because it is essentially a bead blast. Someone more knowledgeable correct me if I am wrong.
 
I believe that is correct - pretty sure I remember reading that there were complaints about corrosion with previous DC iterations; and that, as a result, the finish wasn't offered for a while. I don't recall seeing anything about serious issues; and the general attitude conveyed by responding posters was akin to of course it rusted; its common knowledge that more care must be taken with this finish.
 
My EDC is a DC Park Ranger that I absolutely love. I will occasionally get little corrosion spots on it despite using Frog Lube periodically. But I live in NC and have sweat that will peel paint so it should surprise no one. I have a DC SYKCO AD6 that I have carried very little and treated with a silicone inhibitor and have not seen any rust at all. I love the BIG DC and wouldn’t hesitate to buy another (though I think I’m getting the CF on that TGULB since I’ve never had a CF before)
 
It appears the BIG DC knives have a really sharp (no smoothed) plunge line, unlike most Satin knives. The Satin knives often are more smoothed. You would think blasting with some sort of media would also smooth sharp edges... ?
 
I do not have a problem with corrosion/rust on DC finishes - BUT I live in a very arid climate (central AZ) and when I think about it, the wilderness use that my DCs have seen have largely been in said or a similarly arid climate (for instance, if not desert, then often above tree-line).

The Busse that I typically take on my wet 'n' wild trips (very wet technical slot canyons - "swimmers") is a Sus Scrofa (due to its fantastically reliable and quick cordage cutting ability), which was an LE and therefore satin. That much used and loved beauty (satin and Tigerhide . . . ) was fairly recently lost in one such dark swimmer of a canyon :confused: and as I think about it, has just recently been replaced by a DC Scrofa (seems I did not really think that one through when replacing her - just saw that super sweet green linen Micarta :D and DC combo and immediately sent my money!) for the same intended use.

So I guess at some time in the relatively near future I will be able to fully report on how a DC Scrofa does corrosion-wise when largely continuously immersed in water and mud for up to 16 hours at a stretch! o_O
 
IMPORTANT SAFETY ADVISEMENT AND RECALL ANNOUNCEMENT

My intended (but no doubt doomed from the beginning) experiment notwithstanding, it appears clear from all of the informed comments over the years that the DC and BIG DC finishes are clearly defective and render all DC finished INFI products as defective.

As an attorney, I must advise you that they are to be disposed of safely and properly pursuant to local law and environmental regulations - all of which are satisfied by sending them to me. (Address provided upon request BY PM.)(I am confident that BUSSE will provide you with full shop credit in return for my generously relieving them of this onerous and dangerous liability and responsibility.)
 
Such a giver you are Kenneth. LOL
Kenneth F Huls said:
IMPORTANT SAFETY ADVISEMENT AND RECALL ANNOUNCEMENT

My intended (but no doubt doomed from the beginning) experiment notwithstanding, it appears clear from all of the informed comments over the years that the DC and BIG DC finishes are clearly defective and render all DC finished INFI products as defective.

As an attorney, I must advise you that they are to be disposed of safely and properly pursuant to local law and environmental regulations - all of which are satisfied by sending them to me. (Address provided upon request BY PM.)(I am confident that BUSSE will provide you with full shop credit in return for my generously relieving them of this onerous and dangerous liability and responsibility.)
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Anyone have pics of a DC finish after a lot of use? Been curious about this myself.

Have a couple of factory satin blades (RMDLE & B8LE,) but generally buy coated. Strip some of them myself and apply a rough "competition finish" that I really like with the bonus of being able to etch the logo first, but it is a fair amount of work. Guess I'm a cheap bastard at heart and will keep buying coated, but am curious about the other finishes.

Similar question, has anyone satined up a DC finish? Assume it would be fairly easy vs. Stripping, removing decarb, and then taking to the desired finish.
 
My understanding is that the DC finish is better at “holding moisture” thus has a greater potential to start to spot, esp in more humid climates or w hard use and left unclean for long periods of time such as maybe from blood if hunting or prolonged submersion in water etc.
 
Here's the simple answer to a little bit of increased potential for some corrosion to show up. Get you some sandpaper and some water and start sanding. Make that sucker your own "satin" finished blade. Tip, Infi is hard, real hard, going to take some time but time and sweat equity is free. Don't worry, you wont really sweat no increase in a potential heart attack is at risk and you can do it in no time. :D
 
So, as I read through this, I’m leaning more and more toward BIG DC. Here’s why. I’ve got a SWATmandu that has seen a bit of work and carry. And it lives in kydex. I haven’t seen any spotting or staining. And it probably has the most use of any of my DC’s.
I pulled out my CF NFSH yesterday after a few months of not using it. It had been used in the yard and cleaned and dried afterward. Wiped and allowed to air dry. When I pulled it out of its kydex sheath, I was disappointed to see red staining down in all those micro grooves that have started showing up in CBT blades. I was floored.
So... all that being said, I’m getting BIG DC on the TGULB.
 
dogboye said:
So, as I read through this, I’m leaning more and more toward BIG DC. Here’s why. I’ve got a SWATmandu that has seen a bit of work and carry. And it lives in kydex. I haven’t seen any spotting or staining. And it probably has the most use of any of my DC’s.
I pulled out my CF NFSH yesterday after a few months of not using it. It had been used in the yard and cleaned and dried afterward. Wiped and allowed to air dry. When I pulled it out of its kydex sheath, I was disappointed to see red staining down in all those micro grooves that have started showing up in CBT blades. I was floored.
So... all that being said, I’m getting BIG DC on the TGULB.
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Thanks for letting us know about that, dogboye. I have really been admiring the CF from afar. I don't yet own any but was thinking about giving it a whirl with my next shop direct acquisition. I think it looks really bitchin' as I really like a good "tool finish." I don't like the sound of your experience, however. Not one bit. I wonder if the CBT is a major player here? Would be good to know as I just cannot abide CBT, and if the CF is pretty good in this regard without it, then no problem as there is an absolutely zero% danger of me getting a CBT'd blade!
 
I’ve got other CBT blades. Not the least being the Battle Fusion HUCK Fin. Or Fusion Battle HUCK Fin. (Never can keep that one straight!) That HUCK Fin, comp finish with CBT, has had the same treatment, and no issues that I’ve seen so far. Only the NFSH has shown that issue with CBT and CF. But.... I haven’t seen any of that issue with the DC SWAT, a DC Hog Badger... I guess that’s the only two that I have that I’ve used much. Versus two CF that I’ve used a lot: BFHF and NFSH. So... just throwing it out there. A couple of pretty well used BIG DC, a couple of well used CF. The only one I’ve seen a problem with is CF. It is coincidental that both CF were also CBT.

And let me be clear. The red staining wasn’t in the CBT. It was in the MICRO grooving that is evident in the CBT blades. All the recent CBT blades I’ve gotten have had that micro grooving. But only the NFSH showed the red staining.

So I guess the big point is, I personally haven’t seen any negative to the DC. I HAVE seen a negative with ONE CF blade, out of several, which just happened to also have CBT with micro grooves. Considering the BIG DC of the TGULB is less expensive, looks pretty bi***ing, and DC hasn’t been a problem for me when CF has... I’m going to be ordering BIG DC on the TGULB.
 
dogboye said:
I’ve got other CBT blades. Not the least being the Battle Fusion HUCK Fin. Or Fusion Battle HUCK Fin. (Never can keep that one straight!) That HUCK Fin, comp finish with CBT, has had the same treatment, and no issues that I’ve seen so far. Only the NFSH has shown that issue with CBT and CF. But.... I haven’t seen any of that issue with the DC SWAT, a DC Hog Badger... I guess that’s the only two that I have that I’ve used much. Versus two CF that I’ve used a lot: BFHF and NFSH. So... just throwing it out there. A couple of pretty well used BIG DC, a couple of well used CF. The only one I’ve seen a problem with is CF. It is coincidental that both CF were also CBT.

And let me be clear. The red staining wasn’t in the CBT. It was in the MICRO grooving that is evident in the CBT blades. All the recent CBT blades I’ve gotten have had that micro grooving. But only the NFSH showed the red staining.

So I guess the big point is, I personally haven’t seen any negative to the DC. I HAVE seen a negative with ONE CF blade, out of several, which just happened to also have CBT with micro grooves. Considering the BIG DC of the TGULB is less expensive, looks pretty bi***ing, and DC hasn’t been a problem for me when CF has... I’m going to be ordering BIG DC on the TGULB.
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Thanks for the additional info and clarifications, dogboye! Good luck with her!
 
Regarding rust stains on CF, I had one HR2 come from the factory with some rust just behind the handle scales. Not in the CBT grooves. I haven't use that blade, but I've not had rust on anything else... nothing horrible or bad, and nothing a little light work with steel wool couldn't remedy. And it's no knock against Busse either. INFI isn't stainless, but I was surprised to see it stained out of the box. So I am similarly concerned about CF finish rusting easier than BIG DC, just because of the machining marks/grooves.
 
Another wy to look at the DC finish is- it can hold a little more oxidation or it can hold a little more oil too - And it takes nothing to clean it up either way and if it's being used, you'll smooth it up naturally. Like Imcq said, Infi has never claimed to be SS but it sure is damn resistant.
 
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