Big stones?

I'm not sure if you know of the Gossman survival tool?


It's based on an Ole time sharpening steel.
It's super hardened, I forget how high, 65-66 maybe? Coursely ground. I believe it's D2 tool steel.

A custom one could be made by a maker Here.

I love mine, buts it smaller than I'd want.
And actually thought about making one myself
 
Crag the Brewer said:
I'm not sure if you know of the Gossman survival tool?


It's based on an Ole time sharpening steel.
It's super hardened, I forget how high, 65-66 maybe? Coursely ground. I believe it's D2 tool steel.

A custom one could be made by a maker Here.

I love mine, buts it smaller than I'd want.
And actually thought about making one myself
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Sounds intriguing for outdoor knives for sure. One more thing on my look into list thanks Crag the Brewer Crag the Brewer .
 
Maybe an extra wide stone would be better?

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I don't know if I'm allowed to link eBay stuff but do a search for "LARGE sharpening, natural whetstone 2k grit, 2x6x16,priced to sell, from Guangxi"
 
Wild Willie said:
Who makes that behemoth?
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It's a cheap chinese stone..800 grit. If youre still interested, search: BNBS natural whetstone 800#

Alternatives of much higher quality:

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These are in the 8-10k range..

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Not as good, but ok...1200 grit, tho

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Ilikesharpstuff said:
I don't know if I'm allowed to link eBay stuff but do a search for "LARGE sharpening, natural whetstone 2k grit, 2x6x16,priced to sell, from Guangxi"
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Appreciate it. I'll pass word along.
GAGL said:
It's a cheap chinese stone..800 grit. If youre still interested, search: BNBS natural whetstone 800#

Alternatives of much higher quality:

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These are in the 8-10k range..

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Not as good, but ok...1200 grit, tho

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Thank you kindly. More options on the table
 
Just no. You can't do it for the dollar amount that he wants to spend. Not for a stone that is worth anything. Dan's is about the only quality bench stone supplier left, and for his 12 x 3 stones they go for over $700. You could call them and put in an order for a specialty stone of the size you wanted - and when the find an area in their quarrying that would supply the size and quality that you desire, they would cut it for you. At least they used to do this. But the cost would be rather high - way over his budget. Hall's stones would also do this, but they were limited in what was available to them to cut and they have since gone out of business. That was the only other quality quarry I have found in the last 50 years and then only for translucent hard Arkansas stones.

You could also order a cuticle stone - Belgian sharpening stone from the European quarry. They will provide unique shapes and sizes of stones, but they are also very expensive. Coticule stones are natural water stones that release garnets in the sharpening process that provides a very good edge. Mostly used for straight razors in the past. I have a collection of about 2 dozen or so of them, but they are small when they are found for sale. The largest I have is an 8 x 3 and it cost close to the maximum that this person was willing to spend. A custom large stone that he describes would cost at least double that.
 
Final Edge said:
Just no. You can't do it for the dollar amount that he wants to spend. Not for a stone that is worth anything. Dan's is about the only quality bench stone supplier left, and for his 12 x 3 stones they go for over $700. You could call them and put in an order for a specialty stone of the size you wanted - and when the find an area in their quarrying that would supply the size and quality that you desire, they would cut it for you. At least they used to do this. But the cost would be rather high - way over his budget. Hall's stones would also do this, but they were limited in what was available to them to cut and they have since gone out of business. That was the only other quality quarry I have found in the last 50 years and then only for translucent hard Arkansas stones.

You could also order a cuticle stone - Belgian sharpening stone from the European quarry. They will provide unique shapes and sizes of stones, but they are also very expensive. Coticule stones are natural water stones that release garnets in the sharpening process that provides a very good edge. Mostly used for straight razors in the past. I have a collection of about 2 dozen or so of them, but they are small when they are found for sale. The largest I have is an 8 x 3 and it cost close to the maximum that this person was willing to spend. A custom large stone that he describes would cost at least double that.
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If needs be I'm sure he'll raise his budget. In all honesty I'm a bit surprised that there aren't some manufacturers making larger SiC or aluminum oxide stones (my lack of knowledge on such matters is why I decided to ask here), worst case scenario I'll let him know he needs to save a few more pennies before pulling the trigger. It's not like it can't be maintained with what he has on hand, but wishful thinking has us on the hunt. Like a lot of us here I'm only too happy to help someone spend their money. An exotic European stone actually sounds pretty cool... Thank you for the input.
 
I'm sure there are large aluminum oxide stones and similar like being made for industrial use, just like they have been made for decades. But the makers of these stones don't really deal with people like you and me and aren't much interested in dealing with sales on a small scale. You could contact Norton Abrasives which own the major part of all industrial abrasives made in all qualities, sizes and shapes. But they don't like to deal with small sales, so I doubt you will get much satisfaction there. As others have said, you can make whatever size you wish using abrasive paper over wood or glass but I never much cared for that approach and you have to keep replacing the abrasive paper. A 12 x 3 translucent stone works great for kitchen knives, and that is what I use to finish up mine followed by a home made strop of leather over wood with abrasive on it for the final polish. With the wood/leather strop you can create any size sharpening surface that you desire and the cost is not great at all. You could make a series of them and use different grit abrasives and get whatever result you were looking for. I use Yellowstone abrasive compound for my final polish but if you wanted the finest possible edge you could even to go .2 micron diamond paste to achieve the ultimate polish. Something to consider.
 
Wild Willie said:
the text I got after sending him the link was along the lines of "I had no idea there were so many stones..." It's a lot to take in at one go, especially since he's not particularly intimate with the knife scene in general.
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Oh, that's no the half of it. In synthetics alone over a dozen quality water stones. One of the straight edge razor sites used to have over a dozen different kinds of American and European natural stones.
 
Indeed, I've specifically avoided going down the stone rabbit hole for the sake of my sanity... And now I find myself dragged along. Should have known, it was always his escapades that landed me in hot water growing up too.
 
eveled said:
It may be easier to find large diamond plates. I have some from DMT. They are 11.5” x 2.5” they seem luxuriously large.
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It's on the list of options, definitely seems the easiest to procure. I'll likely be talking over options with him tomorrow whilst we play golf.
 
I think a diamond emulsion would be more plausible!!!! You can use it on wood or leather which be much easier to get in sizes you're looking for although not necessary! Good luck with your search
 
cudgee said:
Life's Tough. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰
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Hey, it's memorial day, one of the few days a year where I pretty much refuse to work.😁
jfk1110 said:
I think a diamond emulsion would be more plausible!!!! You can use it on wood or leather which be much easier to get in sizes you're looking for although not necessary! Good luck with your search
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I've talked about just getting stuff for a strop, we'll see what he decides. Thanks for reminding me though, it had slipped my mind.
 
The downside of diamond plates is that they aren't any larger than the largest bench stones and they wear out rather quickly compared to natural stones. Also, the cost adds up replacing them as they are not cheap. I don't know how big they make waterstones. I just never liked them because they are messy and have to be constantly flattened.
 
Dan's will sell what they call primitive cuts and can be had at a discount. A large stone can be had that way but it may be best to mount it. It will only be finished on one side. You just need to call them and tell them what you are looking for.

The Cretan Oil Stone also comes in sizes up to 5000 grams. It's a great stone, much faster than a soft ark, and to me it's oil only. They are not expensive but the shipping is killer to the US, I would go that way though.

Dan's primitive....

Cretan Oilstones....
 
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