Big surprise tonight...

wow! I am really surprised to see that, I have never seen a becker knife chip out like that even with loads of abuse. I suppose you got a bad one but I know KaBar will take care of you. Make sure to update us with what happens.
 
Man, that is sad to see. I hate to see any product fail like that..:o

I think it's pretty safe to say that is a catastrophic material failure under normal use. If that is not a situation for an immediate replacement, I don't know what is.. No matter who made that knife.;)

Really only two things could cause that. Poor heat treat or imprutities and /or flaws in the steel plate it was cut from. It would be VERY interesting to do some Rockwell testing on that blade and see how hard it is at various points- including where it broke . If it's spot on in terms of overall hardness, then it's due to a crack or inclusion in the blank itself.

Since no knife maker controls the actual steel making process they are at the mercy of the mills who make it. It's the reason why companies like Busse etc do a dye treatment to their blade blanks to check for flaws. You can't really blame companies like KABAR for not doing that at the price point they sell their products . They control their steel quality and heat treat tightly, so such occurences are generally very rare . That's pretty impressive for knives that are often made in runs of 5,000 pieces+ and given how they are used.

The one merciful thing for both the user and maker is if you take a blade out and test it thoroughly right a way with hard use, such flaws usually show up immediately. If a blade is going to fail under normal use, it will usually do so pretty quick..

I have beaten at least 10 Kakar -Beckers like red headed step children though all manner of wood and none of them have shown signs of such failure. Most of mine look like this before they get their coating stripped.

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user error ;)

typical conchoidal fracture resulting from lateral stress whilst chopping through overly hard [dry] knots. probably silcated. you said cedar? nasty stuff.

that said ;) i've alerted KaBar, and they will more than likely take care of you 100%. they'll probably want the knife back to test hardness/heat-treat and stuff like that.

so, i was half-joking when i said user error. never chop or split/baton knots on any tree. esp on certain unknown dried out woods - you might as well be hammering into rock, or knapping splint - that's the conchodal pattern there. shockwaves. usually from a lateral twist when you go through differentially hard materials (knots)

don't even CHOP those with an axe you like. really.

no worries, you'll get a new knife most likely, your family will be AMAZED at the warranty/service. hah.
 
Holy shit!!!!

Yeah, you'll get that one replaced, one way or another.

Not to worry, that is not typical of a BKT knife in any shape or form.

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Moose
 
cOLD,

Bladite gave me a heads up.
Please send the knife and broken chip back to KA-BAR.

KA-BAR Knives
200 Homer Street
Olean, NY
14760

Attn: Paul Tsujimoto

Please include a short note on what you were doing and how you were doing it. Also include a return address.
We'll take care of this for you.

Best Regards,

Paul Tsujimoto
Sr Eng
Prod Dev and Qual
KA-BAR Knives
 
You're the man, Toooj! :thumbup:

Also, kudos to Bladite for paving the way for a Forum member... :thumbup:
 
Yes, where are my manners, thank you Bladite for getting me in the door and for the chopping tips too. I appreciate the willingness to help out and great advise found on this forum. This very cool, I will be able to get a 2 now sooner than later.
 
My coworker come back to my work area with a large box, I got an idea what it might be... this confirms it.

This guy is raring to get out of the box and start cutting..

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Too awesome, thanks so much to Mr Tooj, Mr Bladite, and everyone that chimed in, looking forward to taking this one back to the field for some fun. Now comes the extremely hard decision deciding the next acquisition between, 2 or 14 or 16 or 17 or ....
 
No pics of the actual contents? Boooo....hiss....

I'd go with a 17, 2, then whatever you want from there.
 
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Kinda surprised it was shipped in such a fashion that it could cut its way out of the box. That's...odd. But awesome on behalf of Ka-bar!
 
crimsonfalcon07 said:
Kinda surprised it was shipped in such a fashion that it could cut its way out of the box. That's...odd. But awesome on behalf of Ka-bar!
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that was 100% my fault, thinking back I should have shipped it back in the sheath and box I got it in.. I am sure they didn't want to repack it in the home made pampers box sheath I sent it in.. :)
 
cOLD said:
that was 100% my fault, thinking back I should have shipped it back in the sheath and box I got it in.. I am sure they didn't want to repack it in the home made pampers box sheath I sent it in.. :)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

Moose
 
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