Blueeyeddevil
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Temper said:
well just think about the russian weapons... AK-47/ AK-74 is a better weapon than M-16,that french trumpet and so on...not to mention their awesome thermo nuclear rockets ...
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well just think about the russian weapons... AK-47/ AK-74 is a better weapon than M-16,that french trumpet and so on...not to mention their awesome thermo nuclear rockets ...
Yeah, OK
Give me a Lada over a Mercedes anyday
Give me a Russian Airline Jet over a Boeing any day
Give me a Russian watch over a Rolex any day
Russian stuff is crap, plain and simple. Its made by people paid peanuts with no money for new equipment, research and design. The materials they use are made in state owned factories by people paid peanuts with no money for research or design.
They may have taken the factory and machinery in 45, but thats exactly where the technology has been left, in the last century.
BED, I think you are about 14 years old dispite stating that you have had a pair of binos for 25 years.
I have read other posts by you and I cant put you in your late 30's to early 40's. Please dont ramble about stuff you have no idea about. Its better to either ask or read for a while first.
Give me a Lada over a Mercedes anyday
Give me a Russian Airline Jet over a Boeing any day
Give me a Russian watch over a Rolex any day
Russian stuff is crap, plain and simple. Its made by people paid peanuts with no money for new equipment, research and design. The materials they use are made in state owned factories by people paid peanuts with no money for research or design.
They may have taken the factory and machinery in 45, but thats exactly where the technology has been left, in the last century.
BED, I think you are about 14 years old dispite stating that you have had a pair of binos for 25 years.
I have read other posts by you and I cant put you in your late 30's to early 40's. Please dont ramble about stuff you have no idea about. Its better to either ask or read for a while first.
Blueeyeddevil
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Hey you dumb self-complacent arsehole,I've never said I'm in late 30's or 40's ...my father bought it for me when I was a little kid ...
you mentioned cars,watches,jumbos jets ha ha ...so ****ing what...soviet economy was almost entirely military oriented you dumb prick...so they excelled at producing military equipmen ,not at civilian products ...and yes, the russian optics is excellent and comparable(if not even better) quality to western and it costs a much much less ...an intelligent person wouldn't have any doubts when making rational choice regarding which optics to buy...
you mentioned cars,watches,jumbos jets ha ha ...so ****ing what...soviet economy was almost entirely military oriented you dumb prick...so they excelled at producing military equipmen ,not at civilian products ...and yes, the russian optics is excellent and comparable(if not even better) quality to western and it costs a much much less ...an intelligent person wouldn't have any doubts when making rational choice regarding which optics to buy...
Blueeyeddevil
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What would be a PT list ?
I'm an upland bird hunter, who always carries binoculars. I'll say, that you don't want cheap optics. They'll make your eyes hurt, through eye-strain, and not reveal animals to you (that you ought to have seen).
In a bright environment, I carry compact REI house brand 7x25's, covered in nylon cammo tape. I'm not sure how well they would work in a dark and gloomy forest, or just how water proof they are.
If where you will be watching is bright, you can possibly go with the smaller objective lenses. But darker places call for bigger objectives, to gather more light. It is very instructive to glass stuff at twilight. Optics with good light transmission, will take dark gloomy stuff with fuzzy details in it(according to your unaided eyes) and "light" it up, giving you a bright image, full of clear details.
I went for the compacts because of portability and handiness issues. Had they been as large as 7x35's or 7x50's, I'd prolly never take them. But since they are so small, they get taken a lot. I'm very happy with improved chances to see animals, that carrying handy optics makes possible.
P.S. I don't buy optics sight-unseen. Walk into some big optical store, try a few pieces out, and buy the particular one that has the best image. You are looking for:
-Crisp, edge-to-edge view. Once you focus it, there should be no fuzziness.
-Straight lines should appear straight.
-No colored "edges" around objects (I think this is called "spherical aberration")
-No double-images.
-Easy to re-focus on stuff at different ranges.
-Should state "fully multi-coated" lenses.
Do look through some crappy, cheap stuff first, so that you are freshly familiar with what a bad view looks like.
In a bright environment, I carry compact REI house brand 7x25's, covered in nylon cammo tape. I'm not sure how well they would work in a dark and gloomy forest, or just how water proof they are.
If where you will be watching is bright, you can possibly go with the smaller objective lenses. But darker places call for bigger objectives, to gather more light. It is very instructive to glass stuff at twilight. Optics with good light transmission, will take dark gloomy stuff with fuzzy details in it(according to your unaided eyes) and "light" it up, giving you a bright image, full of clear details.
I went for the compacts because of portability and handiness issues. Had they been as large as 7x35's or 7x50's, I'd prolly never take them. But since they are so small, they get taken a lot. I'm very happy with improved chances to see animals, that carrying handy optics makes possible.
P.S. I don't buy optics sight-unseen. Walk into some big optical store, try a few pieces out, and buy the particular one that has the best image. You are looking for:
-Crisp, edge-to-edge view. Once you focus it, there should be no fuzziness.
-Straight lines should appear straight.
-No colored "edges" around objects (I think this is called "spherical aberration")
-No double-images.
-Easy to re-focus on stuff at different ranges.
-Should state "fully multi-coated" lenses.
Do look through some crappy, cheap stuff first, so that you are freshly familiar with what a bad view looks like.
another vote for the Steiner-binoculars.
I use the Ranger for archery (8x30) and as I have to hold it with only one hand and spot my arrows 90 or 70 meters away I can say it works better than a cheap 10x50 for me. I also like the "sports auto-focus". You focus once and the focus is right for every distance. They are very stable and relieable and there are several price-segments from Safari to Ranger to Wildlife, also try the Navigator or Nighthunter-Series. Over here in Germany they are kind of the standard for hunting, shooting, ornitology/wildlife and the military.
Andreas
I use the Ranger for archery (8x30) and as I have to hold it with only one hand and spot my arrows 90 or 70 meters away I can say it works better than a cheap 10x50 for me. I also like the "sports auto-focus". You focus once and the focus is right for every distance. They are very stable and relieable and there are several price-segments from Safari to Ranger to Wildlife, also try the Navigator or Nighthunter-Series. Over here in Germany they are kind of the standard for hunting, shooting, ornitology/wildlife and the military.
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I'll add in another vote to not buy cheap glasses. They'll only frustrate you and give you a headache. Also, NEVER buy binos with a zoom feature, it only makes the whole assembly less rigid and hard to get a decent view.
You might check out www.opticsplanet.com and look at their Factory Demo section. These are basically factory refurbished units that come with full warranty. Some great buys can be had there. I've bought from opticsplanet.com several times and always got great service. Here's a couple choice deals they have right now:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/steiner-binoculars-8x30-predator.html
http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-monarchatb8x40.html
You might check out www.opticsplanet.com and look at their Factory Demo section. These are basically factory refurbished units that come with full warranty. Some great buys can be had there. I've bought from opticsplanet.com several times and always got great service. Here's a couple choice deals they have right now:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/steiner-binoculars-8x30-predator.html
http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-monarchatb8x40.html