BK7 Kit....

[Moosez45]

Ok, I got a Texas Hunt Company Sheath, and I'm gonna build a small kit, not as elaborate as my BK2,

So, here's my question, what 3 pieces of gear would you put in with it? The pouch will accommodate a space of a double stack magazine.

I have a few things in mind, based on my skill level. Its not a be all, end all kit, there's not enough room. My BK2 Kit has everything a person would need in a tough spot, so.........

Here goes,

4x3/8" mischmetal firesteel
9' of paracord
SAK Handyman

I'm gonna be pushing for this to be one of my primary carry blade/kit for a few outings I will be involved in this fall and winter.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Moose

 

[DerekH]

Firesteel, definitely.

For cordage, I say switch to some of that stuff Ethan has. Thinner diameter means you can take more with ya, and at 155lbs breaking strength you are still doing pretty good there.

SAK is a good call too. That one have a saw and an awl?

 

[Moosez45]

Firesteel, definitely.

For cordage, I say switch to some of that stuff Ethan has. Thinner diameter means you can take more with ya, and at 155lbs breaking strength you are still doing pretty good there.

SAK is a good call too. That one have a saw and an awl?

And pliers, and scissors, and, eh you get the idea.

I've got some thinner, survival cord, that I can use, but I likes me some para.

Good call though.

Moose

 

[C_Tanner]

Firesteel, definitely.

For cordage, I say switch to some of that stuff Ethan has. Thinner diameter means you can take more with ya, and at 155lbs breaking strength you are still doing pretty good there.

SAK is a good call too. That one have a saw and an awl?

Bankline? AKA "Tarred Twisted Nylon". I use Nylonnetco. for mine. They have every strength. I've used the 440lb stuff for hammocks. The 160-220 range always seems to be the most useful to me.

 

[Arkanian]

Firesteel, definitely.
For cordage, I say switch to some of that stuff Ethan has. Thinner diameter means you can take more with ya, and at 155lbs breaking strength you are still doing pretty good there.
SAK is a good call too. That one have a saw and an awl?

Firesteel and/or magnesium is a no-brainer.
If room permits, I'd pass on a SAK and use a Skeletool, I find them to be far sturdier vs. SAK.
Cordage is a must, I'd stick with paracord though, we know how Moose is, I wouldn't trust the thinner test stuff

 

[Uncle Malice]

I keep a spool of #12 bank line. A 1lb spool is about 1600 feet of cordage... Paracord is overkill for many things like camp furniture, shelter making, tripods, etc... I keep paracord always as well... but you can bring along a LOT more bank line than paracord for the same space and weight.

I'm a little lost on why you're limited to 3 items? Someone needs to teach you better organization skills, son!


- bank line
- firesteel
- super glue
- band aid or two
- couple of water tablets
- couple of fish hooks
- Arrowhead (ESEE AH-1 in my case)
- button compass
- probably more....

With all of those lashing points on that sheath, you could do the paracord storage on the outside of the sheath, and keep some stuff attached to it with that and/or a few ranger bands - most notably a drum liner, garbage bag, space blanket, etc.

 

[Eero]

I agree with most of the suggestions so far but would add one thing:

zip ties. I always carry three different sizes in my altoids tin when backpacking and they often come in handy. I fixed my friends broken pack 2 miles in to a 7 day hike once and it held up the entire trip and took 10 seconds to cinch and fix.

 

[Moosez45]

I keep a spool of #12 bank line. A 1lb spool is about 1600 feet of cordage... Paracord is overkill for many things like camp furniture, shelter making, tripods, etc... I keep paracord always as well... but you can bring along a LOT more bank line than paracord for the same space and weight.

I'm a little lost on why you're limited to 3 items? Someone needs to teach you better organization skills, son!


- bank line
- firesteel
- super glue
- band aid or two
- couple of water tablets
- couple of fish hooks
- Arrowhead (ESEE AH-1 in my case)
- button compass
- probably more....

With all of those lashing points on that sheath, you could do the paracord storage on the outside of the sheath, and keep some stuff attached to it with that and/or a few ranger bands - most notably a drum liner, garbage bag, space blanket, etc.

LMAO!!

The idea is small and light. My BK2 kit comes in at 2lbs exactly, and its a go to the ends of the world kit.

This one is more to go along with a Camelback sack of water, a shotgun and some extra shells.

My torn ACL is really starting to bother me on heavy gear, so, I'm wanting to build a fast go getter.

Plus, its a good exercise in minimalism, which sucks, but if its all you got...........



Moose

 

[TwinStick]

Sounds to me like you got it covered Moosez. Zip ties (like stated above) would be a wise addition.

 

[daizee]

can you fit a couple clif bars in there?

 

[DerekH]

No, not bankline. This stuff is tarred braided nylon decoy line, and feels nothing like bank line. Where bank line has memory and a very sticky tar coating, this stuff is very supple and the coating is not a sticky tar. Also, about 2/3's the size of bank line as well. Much nicer to carry, doesn't get tar all over your fingers and everything else, and is much easier to work with. Would work excellent for traps or other such things.

 

[Arkanian]

I agree with most of the suggestions so far but would add one thing:

zip ties. I always carry three different sizes in my altoids tin when backpacking and they often come in handy. I fixed my friends broken pack 2 miles in to a 7 day hike once and it held up the entire trip and took 10 seconds to cinch and fix.

My wife laughed and thought I was joking about zip ties because I bought a bag of 500, she personally uses em for everything, no longer laughing, loves em.

 

[RogueBowie]

Zip ties are awesome. Also, how about a mini roll of duct tape?

 

[willis]

Firesteel,small bottle o iodine,or water treat tablets,folded up piece o heavy aluminum foil.Nice firesteel on that BK2 sheath.Ribbed for your pleasure?

 

[ThePointyEnd]

Just speaking for me, but I'd probably take the firesteel, pjcb's or firestraws and a small sharpening stone.
--The thought process here is that if you need a firesteel instead of the lighter that's probably in your pocket, there's a good chance that either the natural tinder is drenched or you are.

Sounds like this is a hunting setup more than anything, and to that end, seriously sharp is a must, hence the sharpening tool; though second knife might get you more functionality.

Anything for water needs could probably piggyback on the camelback. Though I'd be sorely tempted to add an emergency wrap somewhere else on my person. we are heading toward the colder months, but that bulky sucker ain't jamming into the space of a double-stack.

 

[Eero]

My wife laughed and thought I was joking about zip ties because I bought a bag of 500, she personally uses em for everything, no longer laughing, loves em.

They are really handy to have. You can even link them together and make some pretty insanely strong shapes.

Zip ties are awesome. Also, how about a mini roll of duct tape?

^Yes to this. I carry a couple of feet wrapped around a BIC lighter.

With all these great essentials moose your going to be strapping a 10 pound sheath to your leg with an assortment of things snapped, stuffed, and tied to it.

 

[Moosez45]

With all these great essentials moose your going to be strapping a 10 pound sheath to your leg with an assortment of things snapped, stuffed, and tied to it.

Yup, and that's what I'm trying to avoid. My Camel back 3L is usually full from the house, and there is Aquamira drops in with it.

I did find that I can fit a Snus tin in the pouch, along with 15' of paracord, and my 4" x 3/8" Mischmetal rod.

Now, to fill the tin.........

Cottonballs in straws, yeah, those are going in. I love those, and I made a bunch for my daughter's kit at the start of summer. They work great and are awesome. Wish I had had some at the river of cold fires.

Fishing kit? Maybe, but I don't see the need for it, I have other Snus kits that have full house setups. If I feel the need, I can just throw one in in place of this kit.

Bic lighter? Always one in my pocket, so, no need for that is needed in there.

Moose

 

[mrn8]

The zip ties are a great idea. I'm adding a few to my kits for sure!

I need to make some cottonball straws, too. I have been making little fire starter "pucks" from the paper style egg cartons. You fill each egg slot with sawdust and pour melted wax over the top. I've been getting a good 10 minutes of burn from each slot. They're a lot heavier than cottonballs, though, so I consider them more of a basecamp firestarter.

 

[thatotherguy]

If room permits, I'd pass on a SAK and use a Skeletool

I'd personally go with a Rebar, Sidekick or Wingman for a higher tool count. Aside from that, the SOG deluxe pocket power plier looks pretty nice.
I'd stick with paracord if you must have only one type. That said, I'd put paracord on the external of the sheath and put some tether cord or similar in the pouch. The firesteel needs to stay as well IMO. Just stuff some char cloth/PJCBs in the handle of an ESEE fire kit or in an old prescription bottle and you're good to go.
A few zipties weigh nothing and can be stashed in the paracord looping that comes with the combat master sheaths.

 

[UCPOPO]

No, not bankline. This stuff is tarred braided nylon decoy line, and feels nothing like bank line. Where bank line has memory and a very sticky tar coating, this stuff is very supple and the coating is not a sticky tar. Also, about 2/3's the size of bank line as well. Much nicer to carry, doesn't get tar all over your fingers and everything else, and is much easier to work with. Would work excellent for traps or other such things.

Are you talking about tether cord Derek? Its 3/32" thick and I love that stuff. If you need some Moose, hit me up. I'll cut ya some off.

Heres a pic:

I would also add a small trash bag. It always has a load of uses and doesn't weigh anything.