BK9 vs ESEE Junglas

No Beckers EVER were made in 1056.....and although I love my Junglas, even used it's a LOT more $$ than a BK-9. And it's not any more rust-proof - basically the same steel as the 9.....IMO it chops a little better, and the Kydex with the MOLLE back is a plus, but.....still you could buy TWO bk-9's for the price of a new Junglas. And the 9 is no slouch, by any means. BK-9 vs. Junglas? IMO, the Junglas is better....but TWO BK-9's are better for the $$. In the end, it doesn't matter. There are other knives better than the BK-9.....but none of them is as good a VALUE, IMO. Plus, there's Uncle E. - Becker for the win.
 
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Yup, necropost, and bad information. Also rude. For 145, I'll buy a Becker AND some extra steel to make my own stuff. I never really liked the ESEE handles, and since I can make my OWN handles and sheaths, it doesn't cost me nearly as much. I could buy, rehandle, and resheathe a BK9 for under 145 easily. But YMMV. Nothing wrong with ESEE, anyways.
 
The Junglas is better but 2 BK9s are better yet?that makes sense if your procuring for an army but Im just filling my own requirements and I prefer quality over quantity.Ill conceded that if you're ok with the Low budget nylon sheath and plastic ish scales so you don't need to replace them then the Becker is a better value for the dollar.If you're not then you end up with a couple hundred bucks invested in a hundred dollar knife.
 
Kind of a dumb argument don't you think?If you're going to follow that logic why not just build the entire knife yourself and save even more.Im sure your work is on par with Esee or Becker so it is an apples to apples argument.
 
I love how its lame to reply to an older post but it's ok to argue with the guy that just wanted to add to the discussion.a two year old post is still relevant as long as the subjects are.ever heard of a book?I hear some of those are even older than two years
 
I'll try to break this down for you, since you seem to be relatively new to forums. Necroposting is generally frowned upon across pretty much all forums, mostly for etiquette reasons. If a thread hasn't been posted in for quite a while, it's considered a dead thread. Eg, there wasn't that much interest, or else it would still be active. This particular topic is almost worthless anyways, because you'll be hard pressed to go wrong whichever you choose to pick. It comes down to personal preference, and there's no right answer. More, there weren't even that many posts to begin with responding to this, and countless other threads on the same topic. And it's not like your contributions were particularly ground-breaking. We're glad you like your knives. But at least get your information correct, eh?

My main issue with you, however, isn't even the poor forum etiquette from necroposting. Or the poor forum etiquette from multi-posting instead of editing. It's the rudeness.

P.S Calm down Cletus .Were just chatting about knives here.nothing personal to get butt hurt over.

This, for example. This forum is great precisely because we treat each other with respect. With your wealth of 7 posts, most of which have been combative and negative, you haven't done a whole lot to endear yourself to us.

There are no 1056 Becker knives. You come in here acting like a know-it-all, but you don't even have accurate information. You don't know the costs. You tell me that my argument is dumb because I should make my own knives. Well, that's kind of why my name is in orange--that's a knifemaker/craftsman membership. I do, in fact, make my own knives. And there's a huge difference between being able to make handle scales, and being able to make a quality knife. Try it some time. You might learn something. I still buy Beckers, however, because they're good value. If I liked ESEE's handles, I'd buy those as well. They're good knives too. But frankly, many of us buy Beckers because of Uncle E. We buy them because the Becker community is amazing. We buy them because Ka-bar consistently goes above and beyond in taking care of us. If you want to fit in here, you'll be well-advised to lose the attitude. Making comments like "ever heard of a book" is clearly intended to be patronizing. Hmm, books, you say?



What would you say? Do you think that I've heard of books? As for the relevance of the topic, that's the entire reason that necroposting is frowned upon. If you have to resurrect an old thread, it's probably NOT a topic that's relevant, unless there's some sort of ground-breaking new piece of information. What, exactly, in your posts thus far, do you think hasn't been said hundreds of times before?

Anyways, welcome to the forums. I hope you can try to be a little more subdued, shall we say, and try to avoid antagonistic comments. Because all we have is the written word, without the wealth of information conveyed by body language and tone, word choice is far more important on forums than in a conversation. I'm glad you like your Junglas, and I hope it continues to serve you well.
 
I assume that if I google a subject and it takes me to a forum it's still relevant.I didn't start out beligerent.I merely responded to others that somehow turned it into a personal matter and replied with rude comments.Read my first post.I I was nice until the very first guy replied as if id cast dispersions on the size of his penis instead of adding my thoughts on knives.Im still having a difficult time understanding why it's verboten to comment on an older thread that is still relevant yet it's ok to reply to my posts.my point with the books is that information is always relevant as long as the subject still exists.Im aware that the BK9 does not come in 1056.I confused it with another knife that is typically in the mix in this discussion.The Ontario rtak.Im all for being civil but that's a two way street.I still contend that making your own scales and sheath does not add to a conversation about the merits of two different knives as most people are not equipped to do so.That being said I won't be reading or posting again anyway as I've learned nothing about the subject I searched .threads should close after X amount of time if its a mortal sin to add to one .
 
The issue my friend has been thoroughly expounded upon by Crimson Falcon 07. Yes, we understand your initial posting was not belligerent however the following posts were reasonably patronising and it's those comments which have spurred the less than friendly greeting. As to making scales and sheaths most of the people in this specific knife forum are quite talented at doing just that. We also have members here who will make custom scales and sheaths for your knives so in that specific context mentioning additional components becomes quite significant. There's a very god thread on here about Becker modifications, as you're clearly interested in knives i suggest that you stick around have a bit of a look at these sorts of threads, they should give you a look at the forum guidelines and etiquette we have and also be a great way to kill a little time.
When I first got here I necro-posted a lot. It seems a bit weird not adding to old conversations at first but please try and appreciate that most of us have already seen that thread, read its ideas and garnered a god understanding of the arguments so seeing it again seems somewhat passé. Have a good one.
 
Great first post...on a 2 year old thread...

Anywho...
At least you get to choose your new scales and sheath and aren't stuck with what they give you for $200...
Or, like me, am satisfied with my stock $80 BK9 with $ left over for more steel!

The first part of my post was half compliment, half snark...the rest was part of the same old debate beating a dead horse. I didn't figure on you being so sensitive and getting your feelings hurt so please accept my apologies.
Welcome to the forums, stick around and learn something or contribute to this great little corner of BF.
Obviously you like Beckers to some extent. Poke around and get a feel for the place. You'll see that one of the great appeal of Beckers here is that we like to modify them and make them our own, almost a blank canvas. With all the enablers here, you may just get addicted! All is forgotten as far as I'm concerned and I'm done with this.
 
Im aware that the BK9 does not come in 1056.I confused it with another knife that is typically in the mix in this discussion.The Ontario rtak.

Where do you come up with this 1056 Steel? The earlier RTAK 2 knives were made with 1095. The more recent ones are made with 5160.
 
:thumbup: yep rtak ii was 1095 but they switched to 5160 for better chopping performance/longevity ... Not that 1095 is a slouch...
 
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:thumbup: yep rtak ii was 1095 but they switched to 5160 for better chopping performance/longevity ... Not that 1095 is a slouch...

they moved to 5160 when they went from 3/16" stock to 1/4" thick stock -- part of this move was material and stock consistency with other lines in production and the fact that 5160 has a slightly more forgiving HT protocol than 1095.
 
The first part of my post was half compliment, half snark...the rest was part of the same old debate beating a dead horse. I didn't figure on you being so sensitive and getting your feelings hurt so please accept my apologies.
Welcome to the forums, stick around and learn something or contribute to this great little corner of BF.
Obviously you like Beckers to some extent. Poke around and get a feel for the place. You'll see that one of the great appeal of Beckers here is that we like to modify them and make them our own, almost a blank canvas. With all the enablers here, you may just get addicted! All is forgotten as far as I'm concerned and I'm done with this.

Thank you for the nice response.I apologize for my rude comments.Were all members of the small part of the population that loves and appreciates knives so it ridiculous to fight amongst ourselves.
 
I apologize for my rude comments.

Thank you for settling down and recognizing that your tone was off.

The Becker subforum tends to be a pretty calm place where respect is the rule, not the exception.
The reason for the intial response is that it's considered bad forum to resurrect two-year-old posts. Just part of the culture of Bladeforums.
Anytime you come to a new forum, I think it's a good idea to read more than you post in order to get a sense of the place.

Welcome. I hope you find a place for discussion here.
 
The reason for the intial response is that it's considered bad forum to resurrect two-year-old posts. Just part of the culture of Bladeforums.

Not to throw gas on the flames, but there needs to be a balance to this. Google often leads to older posts when researching a subject. If there is something someone would like to add to a discussion, I see no problem with resurrecting an old thread. Because on the flipside, if someone starts a new post that covers the same ground, that someone is often reprimanded for "not using the search function" or "rehashing an old thread."

I think it is especially apt in this case - IRL, the BK9 vs Junglas discussion is not going anywhere, so it is something that will be Googled.

My $0.02
 
Everyone makes mistakes. Thread resurrections WILL happen. We'd prefer for them to happen when there's actually some new, ground-breaking content being added, but you don't always get it. The real mark is how you respond when someone calls you on the mistake. Do you own up, and try to do better next time, or get defensive and start attacking other people?

In this case, I'm glad to see that Kryptek did come around. That last message was spot on: we all love knives, and there's really no reason to fight. It's also especially important not too read too much into people's comments, as it's hard to tell how they meant to say something. My golden rule is to give other people the benefit of the doubt where possible, and for my own part, to think carefully about what I want to post, and, under most circumstances, to review my wording before I click that post button (or edit it quickly on the frequent occasions when I still screw up, and then hope that nobody quoted me before I snuck my edit in). Can't always be good, but I think it's always worth trying.

Kryptek, what have you done to/with your 9 and your Junglas? Got any pics of them in use?
 
Both Fine Knives for the task at hand. It is a personal preference at choice here, Not a clear winner or looser... I tend to like the Esee because of the slightly longer blade and lack of bowie type profile near the tip of the blade
 
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