Blade Designs That Do Well With The SPYDEREDGE

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It goes without saying that Spyderco is truly the undisputed king of the serrated blade. The Spyderedge has literally put every other knife company's serration patterns in the back seat for sure. Spyderco really put themselves on the map from it's very inception with their super cutting Spyderedges ( Spyderco's patented serration pattern). Albeit there are some types of knife designs that I feel do better with the Spyderedge than other designs do.

For instance I feel that Spyderco's hawkbill blades do a superb job with the Spyderedge. It also seems like most of the blades with some degree of curve on them really perform better in SE. Also some time back a good friend of mine made the astute observation that full flat grind blades with Spyderedges seem to work much more efficiently than blades with other types of grinds ( hollow grind ect) in SE.

Which blade designs do you all feel that do well with the Spyderedge? Which is your favorite Spyderco model in SE? And which models would you like to see Spyderco offer in SE? I've wanted to see models like the C-111 Captain and the Ulize in SE. I would also like to see the return of the Dodo in SE. What say you all?
 
I would absolutely love to see a Spydiechef in SE. I think the curve and serrations would make for a great knife. It would definitely add to the more general utility ability of it.
 
Hey great input so far guys!! and so far I agree with you all. One of the main reasons I put up this thread has to do with some certain models that I've tried to get Spyderco to reconsider their strategy with. Let's take the old C-60 Massad Ayoob model of Spydercos>> they did a Sprint Run as recently as 2011 but on that sprint run they didn't offer any of them in SE. Which really deflated my baloon so to speak because the original Ayoob model was available in SE>> and what's significant about that is I've heard from fellow Spyder-Heads that the Ayoob was thee best serrated Spyder of all time. And I attribute that to the convex belly it had. My good pal Doc Snubnose over at the other forum even did meat tests with that Serrated Ayoob and he said the results were mind-blowing it performed so well in SE.

But also take Spyderco's Great Hawkbill blades i.e. the Harpy, The Superhawk, the Dragonfly Hawkbill and the big daddy of them all the SPYDERHAWK. Now I own several of Spyderco's plain edged Hawkbills and to tell you the truth I really don't know why I own them. Because they are really nothing more than collector pieces for me. Because serrated (Spyderedged) Hawkbills have 20 times the cutting capability of the plain edged Hawkbill blade. That is an undisputable fact and no one will argue with you either. I've really gone nuts trying to figure out why Spyderco doesn't exploit this advantage that they have by literally being king of the serrated blade. Because they are a long way from taking full advantage of it IMO. Also I just know in my gut that a Recurve blade like the ULIZE model for instance would be 10 times the cutting ability of a plain edged recurve but yet they don't even give it a chance.
 
The szabo folder has a great curve to it as well as a somewhat negative blade angle like the Ayoob. I have no experience with the model though. But I think it should be included
 
The Lil Native is fantastic with the fully serrated edge. I fully serrated Dodo, and I have the plain edge version, I can only assume would be just as fantastic.
 
And the manix2. It has been done before with a hollow grind, but could be rereleased with a FFG. As you mentioned, SE performs better with a FFG behind it vs a hollow/sabre.
 
PStone said:
The szabo folder has a great curve to it as well as a somewhat negative blade angle like the Ayoob. I have no experience with the model though. But I think it should be included
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Thank you for mentioning the "Szabo" collaboration. Because that is one model I personally want to eventually get for that very reason. The blade design and geometry is the closest model to the Ayoob of anything they ever made. Yeah I would love to test drive one of those in Spyderedge for sure. Both models were most definitely tactical/SD designs and both were designed by experts in their respectable fields.

In the past 8 years or so there have been literally dozens of models that I just can't for the life of me understand why they didn't offer a Spyderedged version. The C-111 Captain would have probably sold at least 8 times as many units in SE I'm just sure of it.
 
so my take on the best serrated Spyderco is a hawks bill ladybug. The SE packs the equivalent of a big blade into a small package so when paired with a very small knife you get something that punches way above it's weight.
 
Bruceter said:
I give a lotta love to a fully serrated Military!

Bruceter
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I have heard on the other Forum that the SE Military may indeed be coming back soon. But I totally agree with you that it should have never been completely deleted from the main line up at all. My older 440V SE Military is one that I traded some time back and it turned out to be one of my biggest regrets too.

I even had a ParaMilitary in SE once. You don't see those very often either. And I've heard many of the guys are requesting that one to return as well.
 
Are there any forum members or companies that offer a service to add spyderedge to a plain edge knife? Or is that a patented pattern, making it a no go?
 
fng5 said:
Are there any forum members or companies that offer a service to add spyderedge to a plain edge knife? Or is that a patented pattern, making it a no go?
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Some time ago, we had a thread showing optional grinding service for spyderedge conversions.
One shop was approved by Sal as good quality work.

Regards,
FK
 
FK said:
Some time ago, we had a thread showing optional grinding service for spyderedge conversions.
One shop was approved by Sal as good quality work.

Regards,
FK
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Cool! Thanks for the info, I’ll start digging around and see if I can find it.
 
fng5 said:
Are there any forum members or companies that offer a service to add spyderedge to a plain edge knife? Or is that a patented pattern, making it a no go?
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There is a knife maker that offers that service. If my memory is correct I think they told me once that "Wiley Knives">> I'm pretty sure that is the knifemaker they were talking about over at the other Spyderco forum last winter if I remember right. The only reason I never tried using them is because I've never got to talk to anyone who has used their service and I'm not about to give them a knife worth between $80 to $150 to put serrations on unless I really know that they do quality work. Especially when dealing with someone my mail.

But I'm pretty sure that was the knifemaker that offered that service. How they guys over at Spyderco.com knew about them I'm not sure. But I'm quite certain that somewhere in the USA there would be some other knifemaker or professional machinist that also probably does that. If anyone else knows of anyone please feel free to share that information with us. I have an extra Sprint Run, G-10 handled C-60 Ayoob model I would love to have that done to.
 
JD Spydo said:
There is a knife maker that offers that service. If my memory is correct I think they told me once that "Wiley Knives">> I'm pretty sure that is the knifemaker they were talking about over at the other Spyderco forum last winter if I remember right. The only reason I never tried using them is because I've never got to talk to anyone who has used their service and I'm not about to give them a knife worth between $80 to $150 to put serrations on unless I really know that they do quality work. Especially when dealing with someone my mail.

But I'm pretty sure that was the knifemaker that offered that service. How they guys over at Spyderco.com knew about them I'm not sure. But I'm quite certain that somewhere in the USA there would be some other knifemaker or professional machinist that also probably does that. If anyone else knows of anyone please feel free to share that information with us. I have an extra Sprint Run, G-10 handled C-60 Ayoob model I would love to have that done to.
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Willey knives out of Deleware is the place, according to evilD from the spyderco forums.
 
Search for Jay Fisher Knifemaker,,, one of his serration style is very close to Spyderco factory.

Tom Veff Sharpening Service, web site has a different style however, he specializes in conversions to existing knives. Also, YouTube Veff Serrations Cut Better and How to Sharpen Veff Serrations.

Regards,
FK
 
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