Blade marking help...

I think eswartz is right; you can see the horizontle line and the Sun rising-

BUT; I don't recall ever seeing the shining 'ray's ever looking so uniform, if it was Sher's symbol.

I wonder if this symbol designates Bura's primary helper? He has a very young Kami he is training under him. If so, that mark is really unique.



munk
 
Munk,

How about the initials, can you make them out as being "Bura's" ?

Maybe Yangdu will run across this thread and uncover the mystery :)
 
Sharp idea, Jimmy, and I just compared a Bura I have here to yours. Yes, those are Bura's initials.

edit; and in looking I saw a recent Sher mark- that was Sher's mark underneath. So- either the first mark was put on by mistake, or they've combined two marks to indicate something.

munk
 
Thank you, Munk, it at least gives me a certainty on the initials.

I document all the facts I can on all of my collectibles, so this is my reason for trying to get these markings read properly :)
 
Maybe this is an older rebadged Kesar blade.

Kesar had that half sun before Sher (pre-2002)

I don't really believe that. I just think that whoever puts the symbol on the blade, marked the wrong one (Sher's) then put the right one (Bura's) over it. I like it too, kinda like a double struck coin or something. Rare.

Eric.
 
Rare can be good :)

Like Munk had said before, maybe it was meant to be. I am strictly a collector, so a unique/rare marking on a HI blade could be something right up my alley ;)

Even though, I'd love to find out the reason for this apparantly different marking.
 
It would seem, at least to me, that these markings are probably one of the last things done on these knives. The markings are probably placed after the final polish is done, as to not have the polish distort the markings. If this is so, then I would doubt that the blade was somehow salvaged from another Kami's previous project.

These are my leanings, after reading all of your comments:

*Bura received some help from another Kami (maybe Sher) and placed his marking along side his to give some credit where credit was due.

*Or, maybe Bura was experimenting with a new mark (but it would seem strange that he would borrow the pattern of another Kami).

*Or, maybe Sher grabbed this Bura knife out of a few thinking it was his, and then started marking it, only to discover it was not his, where then Bura finalized the markings. Doubtful, but I guess one never knows.

I guess there could be a bunch of other possibilities, but those are what come to mind for me.
 
I'm not sure who does the marking or when it gets done, probably after the polish like you said since I have not seen any that are polish obliterated, and I have seen that on the Swords of Shiva.

And of the three choices above I would seriously doubt the first two and would pick the third.

And as always, I may be wrong.

Eric.
 
The suspense is taking a hold of me,................ I now need to know! ;) LOL!

Again, I hope Yangdu runs across this thread and sheds some light on the matter :)
 
Just some new speculation on my part, but I was looking at the way that all of the marks are made on both sides of the blade, and something new came to mind.

It looks like "all" the makings on this knife were made by one person.

I have seen photos of older HI markings, and though most seem to have a pretty neatly done Devangari script HI company marking, the Kami markings seem to oftentimes look more on the crude side of things.

On my knife though, all the markings "seem" to be done by just the one person, and the markings "all" look pretty neatly done.

My guess.....

What "if" for the purpose of having the markings consistantly look more visually appealing, the decision was made to have the same guy(s) that normally do the HI Devangari blade markings, now do all of the markings? If this decision were to have been made, I could see where the guy doing this marking could have, by mistake, started marking this particular blade with Sher's mark (thinking it was his), and then either realized, or was told that it was not Sher's, but Bura's. He would then go on to correct his mistake by completing the marking correctly (while of course leaving the trace of his original mistake).

Just a thought, which may or may not hold water.
 
Jimmy, after considering your last post very carefully, I'm reasonably certain you have the HI Virus.




munk
 
Guy's, I just know I won't be able to stop all of my theorizing until I get to the bottom of this. If I never do find out why it was done this way, the date may be sometime during the year 2026, and you still may see me pop in to this forum and write..... "You know something, I have another idea on why this may have happened"......... ;) LOL!


Munk, I'm like this with all items I've collected. I am always very thorough in learning as much about the product and manufacturer as possible. I also like to document pertinent information about the items that I purchase. I actually keep a three drawer filing cabinet that houses info on almost every single collectible I own.

I definitely have a virus, but the form I have may very well be much more severe than anything you have seen in the past...... ;) LOL! :)
 
One of the things that frustrates me, collecting-wise, is how seldom kami's in general put any markings on their khukuri. 99% have zip for markings, leaving us westerners to fumble around trying to figure out where and when a khukuri was made -- forget by whom. You end up with opinions expressed in ranges ("late 19th to early 20th century" or "pre-WW I").

Too bad there wasn't some German influence. :D

Here we know - usually - not only which enterprise turned the item out but which kami ws the principal maker. We can look at his picture. We can compare a khukuri to his other work or the work of other kamis. What a boon to khuk-nuts! :thumbup:
 
bump for an interesting thread of old.

bladite
 
wow interesting......
i had a theory until i saw how old this thread was.
 
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