BladeforumsTop ten tacticals

Nobody said the trainers were to be used in a "square off" style with each person having his drawn, and taking turns at attacking and defending. A more realistic use of a trainer is to "go at it" with a partner, and practice getting to your knife when you are caught off guard, and inflicting an "injury" on your attacker. Kind of like how they try to teach officers gun retention. Basically this guy gets tackled by one or a couple different guys, and it is a "no holes barred" attempt at getting his gun away from him. You don't have to show your attacker your knife, but you need to practice getting the knife deployed in many different situations, mostly the ones in which you aren't standing in a well balanced position ready to be attacked. This is very dangerous to try with a live knife, and justifys the reason for needing a trainer. If you think you can practice deploying your real knife in any given situation without getting cut or cutting someone, then you are sorely mistaken. Anyone can draw their personal knife quickly if they are in a good relaxed position, thinking about it. But, when you are thinking more about staying alive, or are nocked to the ground, or trying to fend off an attack, can you reliably deploy your knife? To know, you have to practice with a partner who is going to catch you off guard, knock you to the ground, etc. And to practice safely, you need a trainer or a drone.

Mike
 
Originally posted by Medic1210
Basically this guy gets tackled by one or a couple different guys, and it is a "no holes barred" attempt...
Click to expand...
Mike, are you sure you weren't thinking of gay porn? I can see how they might be easy to mix up...:D :D :D
 
I guess I can see some value to that type of training.

Personally, I don't see much need for quickly deploying my knife. I'll use my fists and feet until I can get to my knife.
No matter how fast you can deploy your knife, you can kick and punch even faster.

Allen.
 
Originally posted by allenC
No matter how fast you can deploy your knife, you can kick and punch even faster.

Allen.
Click to expand...

Not always going to be able to kick and punch your opponent. Ever watch the UFC videos? They are constantly putting each other into positions where they can't get a hit or a kick off. They could, however, deploy a knife and hurt their assailant if they had one. Fights are unpredictable, and to think you will always be able to hit or kick your way out of a situation is setting yourself up for failure. You need to be able to deploy your knife in awkward positions, not just quickly. But you do need to be able to do it consistently, so if you ever need it, you know you can get it.

Mike
 
I'll use my fists and feet until I can get to my knife.
Click to expand...

In a surprise attack, that's what you're gonna have to do. Now, can you draw, open, and put your knife into use while keeping up that fists-and-feet defense? That's called, "transitioning," transitioning the fight from an empty-handed situation into an armed one mid-stream. That's why you need a folding trainer that matches your carry knife.
 
Not at all.

I made the statement that I don't think that a knife can be considered "tactical" if there isn't a trainer variant available. If you're trying to make a list of "the top ten tacticals," well then deciding what qualifies as a "tactical" knife may be part of that discussion. Since then, we've spent a few posts discussing the validity of my argument.

If my assertion is true, then many of the knives that have been suggest for our "top ten" list will fall out of consideration.

It's sort of like a court room situation where one lawyer wants to introduce some evidence and the other lawyer claims that the evidence is not admissible. For a brief few moments (hopefully) the focus shifts from the guilt of the defendant to the nature of the evidence. But it's a critical and necessary shift. The ultimate outcome of the case may hinge on this "side bar" discussion.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top