Bm 710 d2 = pm2

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Hey members... I have quite a handful of para2. Have not own any equal value that live up to the scares PM2.

Until....I met the BM 710 D2.....it's one of those knife that by heart, you know it. Totally blown away....smoothest I've ever held. I'm just surprise that it does not get mentioned as much like the PM2. It's head to head right there.....can't find a PM2...get a BM710 D2...

Definitely deserve it.....hands down....I'm back on the BM wagon. Just Wow!
 
Flip flopper!

First the manix, now this? You'll be dissing it in no time.

Just playin. Glad you like the 710. It's high on my must have list.
 
The710 isn't mentioned as much as the PM2 because for one, it's been out for years longer (like a decade!) and two, I don't think any knife is mentioned more than the PM2 ever since it's been so scarce.

Love the 710, one of my favorites for sure.
 
A few years back the 710 and military (full size) were always a hot topic. They were the top two contenders for most knife enthusiasts that wanted a "hard use blade" (before that term was even popular) with good performance. Today what's new is hot and style has taken a front seat to performance in many cases.
 
If BM would sell spare Omega Springs, I'd probably have a dozen or so of their knives.

The 710 is a super efficient knife, the handle is hardly any bigger than the blade inside.
 
MatthewSB said:
If BM would sell spare Omega Springs, I'd probably have a dozen or so of their knives.

The 710 is a super efficient knife, the handle is hardly any bigger than the blade inside.
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Have you had problems with them? I've read many times that the worry over spring failure is undue, although I guess it does happen occasionally.
 
I've actually lost a few springs & just send them the entire knife....BM CS is top. They send knife back to you with new spring installed. Usually then change both if you lose one. But of course, I would not write down you lose them????? More like you don't know where it went, must have broke. Of course, we are just BSing...right. None of this ever happen.
 
The broken omega spring thing is getting to be almost comical. I bet most people haven't seen an omega spring much less than broke one. I use AXIS locks almost exclusively and it just isn't an issue. Plus if you had a dozen Benchmade knives and one did break, you would have eleven others to use while it gets fixed. And if you live outside the country they will send them to you. Or take a half hour and a little ingenuity and make yourself a pair. Bending a piece of wire really isn't hard. At least Benchmade will take care of you if you lose a spring. Spyderco would void your warranty and send it back or charge you 30 bucks with shipping.
 
Strigamort said:
Have you had problems with them? I've read many times that the worry over spring failure is undue, although I guess it does happen occasionally.
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It's happened to me enough that I'm now a little wary of the Axis lock. Though, I'm sure that the vast majority of people will never encounter any problems with it.

FlaMtnBkr said:
The broken omega spring thing is getting to be almost comical. I bet most people haven't seen an omega spring much less than broke one. I use AXIS locks almost exclusively and it just isn't an issue. Plus if you had a dozen Benchmade knives and one did break, you would have eleven others to use while it gets fixed. And if you live outside the country they will send them to you. Or take a half hour and a little ingenuity and make yourself a pair. Bending a piece of wire really isn't hard. At least Benchmade will take care of you if you lose a spring. Spyderco would void your warranty and send it back or charge you 30 bucks with shipping.
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I've had two broken omega springs, one on a 943 and one on a 940. I made new springs out of guitar string. I'm pretty sure that Benchmade states clearly that disassembly will void your warranty as well.

Spyderco has sent me washers for a knife that I told them outright I had disassembled. Never dealt with Benchmade more than a couple phone calls, but suffice it to say that they won't re-blade all of their knives.

MatthewSB said:
If BM would sell spare Omega Springs, I'd probably have a dozen or so of their knives.

The 710 is a super efficient knife, the handle is hardly any bigger than the blade inside.
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Just pick up some guitar string or piano wire. It's actually not that hard to make new springs.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
The broken omega spring thing is getting to be almost comical. I bet most people haven't seen an omega spring much less than broke one. I use AXIS locks almost exclusively and it just isn't an issue.
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I had a Presidio for 10 years, used it daily for the first 5, and it never gave me an issue.

I'm not saying it's a terrible design, quite the opposite actually. The axis lock design has earned my respect, I just prefer back and liner locks because the axis lock isn't percieved, by me, to be as durable.
 
Fair enough. And I'm not saying it never happens. I just think it has got to where people read that it has happened and then think it's a huge issue when it's not and it has turned into a rumor for lack of a better word.

Benchmade does state that disassembly will void their warranty, but in my experience if you get it back together they could care less. And like the person before, the knife can be missing parts and they still fix it. I imagine they say that to try and reduce the amount of knives they get taken apart in a plastic bag. Maybe I have just had bad luck with Spyderco but if they see signs of disassembly, they give you a hard time. I have also read on the forums where others have had the same issue and never heard of Benchmade actually voiding a warranty. I am also a bit surprised Spyderco sent out parts. Must have been a current production knife since they don't stock parts. Don't get me wrong, I like Spyderco knives and have probably 3 times as many than I do Benchmade. I'm not real hot on their warranty department though. Just haven't had very good luck.

And Benchmade will replace blades for their fee all day long if they still have some in stock. You won't ever get a new blade from Spyderco unless it is a whole new knife.
 
I disagree with the thread title calling them equal; I much prefer my 710s to my PM2.
 
The 710 was my favorite knife for a while...

I've had 3 springs break, 1 on a 556 and 2 on a 710. I made new springs with .030'' piano wire (BM's are .025'' I believe), a little too stiff at first but has since gotten a little easier to manipulate.

I don't think the risk of Omega Springs breaking is something to shrug off, I LOVE Benchmade's designs but probably won't be buying for a while due to the omegas. Feeling an axis lock go limp is probably one of the worst feelings in the world :grumpy:

Bottom line: The springs are really thin, something that thin will wear out and break, especially for us knife knuts who like to play with our knives. If you never flip your knife for the fun of it, you probably won't have any problems.
 
I have 7 BM's with AXIS locks one of them a 710 and have never had a problem with omega springs.

I think I'll be adding an 8th BM to my flock, Another 710 in CPM M4. I like the design that much.
 
I like the longer blade on the 710 and the blade to handle ratio too. Even though it's longer

On the PM2 I like the spyderhole and I have mixed feelings on the choil. Sometimes I like it, but most of the times I just wish I had 1/4 inch more blade (doesn't sound like much but it's just my opinion).
 
blame it on god said:
I have 7 BM's with AXIS locks one of them a 710 and have never had a problem with omega springs.

I think I'll be adding an 8th BM to my flock, Another 710 in CPM M4. I like the design that much.
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Have you used M4 before? Be very careful, I just used my Gayle Bradley in M4 for the first time last week and it started staining while I was using it to cut up my steak at a BBQ. I figured the oils/fats of the steak would coat the blade, but maybe what did the trick was the hot grilled peppers I also cut up.
 
Yeah, I've got a GB. (A contego too but that's coated) I typically don't use my pocket knives for food, And if I do I use a SAK or my hobo tool. I use marine tuf glide on everything but them.

EDIT: BM coats their CPM-M4 anyway.
 
I have a Contego too, also coated, but I haven't used it yet. If the G10 wasn't as sharp/rough I'm sure I would be carrying it pretty often.

I think what I'm gonna do is just force a patina on the Gayle Bradley.
 
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