BM Mini Deja Voo thoughts and pics

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Short version: this knife rocks if you can abide a liner-lock. Outstanding fit and finish, beautiful design, and top-notch materials. Instant favorite for me.

I've now had the 745 (Mini Deja Voo) for just over two weeks. I've carried it just about every day, and put it through the generally very gentle work I use knives for--envelopes, boxes, apples, cheese and salami--as well as some more rugged, but still pretty mellow, work splitting kindling and making shavings. Someone else will have to do all the serious wilderness testing on this knife, push cutting, edge retention, etc. It's a Benchmade, it's S30V, and it has the edge shape of a fairly conventional drop point, and in my limited experience with these things it's performing well, as would be expected. After two weeks with no sharpening it still shaves, although roughly. Out of the box it was wicked sharp. The high flat grind contributes to making it a great slicer.

This has become the knife I'd keep if I could only keep one. It might not be my first survival kit knife, and it is a little big for my EDC preference (I find the Delica to be the perfect size). The 745 has a liner lock, and is clipped only for right-handed, tip-down carry. I prefer Axis locks or liner locks and tip-up carry. Despite this, this is still the one knife I'd want to keep. My high regard for this thing has everything to do with its amazingly smooth operation, really high-quality fit, finish, and materials, and the simple fact that it looks really good to me. I think it's just a beautiful design. It feels good in the hand, opens unbelievably smoothly and effortlessly (those bronze washers?) and has a practical blade shape and grind. It's good that this opens easily with a flick of the thumb, because the flare that makes a kind of guard on the handle does get in the way if your thumb stays in the opening hole throughout the arc of the opening. Does that make sense? Basically, when you open the knife slowly, for example, your thumb grazes the flare out on the handle. Not a big deal, and no issue at all if you flick the knife open like I do.

Some have suggested that this should have an Axis lock, but I disagree. For one thing, the Axis mechanism simply wouldn't fit with the current arrangement of clip and pivot, which are each positioned centrally. To change the shape of the forward section of the handle would make it a different knife. Since the beauty and aesthetics of this knife are what make it stand out to me, the changes I imagine would be necessary to make it an Axis locker wouldn't be worth it. A lockback mechanism might be another story.

As for the liner lock the knife does have, the ramp angle on the tang is not terribly steep, and the liner does engage all the way onto the tang. The liner seems pretty thick, too. My main concern about a liner lock is about longevity rather than failure, because I think a well built liner lock is going to be able to handle what I do with knives. I wouldn't want lock mechanisms to loosen up over time, though, and there seems to be enough room on the tang for this thing to wear and still engage for a long time. Lockup is very solid; there is no play in the blade in any direction.

By the way, the "mini" description of this knife is like the "mini" that applies to the mini Manix or the mini Skirmish. This is a big knife that fits well in my big hands.

The only change I'd make? Some jimping on the thumb rest. I hope BM is successful with this model. I'd love to see limited editions, different handle materials, etc. I rarely think about custom folders, but this knife makes me really want to see a folding knife made by Bob Lum.

I hope this review has been interesting. Here are some photos:

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Nice and fair review. I can see why you like it. Also, thanks for showing pics with it in your hand. I get a much better idea of the size with pics like that.
 
Yes,Good little write up,great pics,too.I have really focused on traditional slips and small gents type folders,but I'll admit,I have one of these coming in any day,and am excited about it.I love Bob Lum's designs,but hard and expensive to obtain,Benchmade knives are quality.There is a lot of good stuff here wrapped up in one knife.The clip design on this,.and the blade shape,w/the G-10 scales,S30V,a lot of knife,for sure
Would you say that this(blade/handle profile) is based on the Forester Lum folder ??
-Vince
 
By the way, the "mini" description of this knife is like the "mini" that applies to the mini Manix or the mini Skirmish. This is a big knife that fits well in my big hands.

I really don't understand how/when/why "mini" is now used to describe a knife that has an over 3inch blade and is over 4inch closed. Used to be "mini" meant a 3inch or under blade (and 4inch or under closed). I really wish it would have stayed that way and if this was a true mini I would be all over it.

BTW...thanks for the great review and pics. JT
 
I love my Mini Dejavoo more than any knife I have gotten in a long time except my Mini Griptillian with the round hole opener. I think the Mini Dejavoo is a perfect knife although I would like a 2.9" version too.:)
 
Gustavosal, how does the Lum compare to the Manix?

This is a really good question. They both have similarly shaped S30V blades with high, flat grinds, round hole openers, stainless liners and G-10 handles. They're also different in important ways. I have the standard Manix and the "Mini" Deja Voo, and it might be more worthwhile to compare the full size 640 to the Manix and the 645 to the Mini Manix. daniel4572 put the two biggies together, and might be a good person to address this question. you can see his pictures here:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457816&page=2&highlight=deja+voo

I haven't used my Manix much, so I'm not really the best person to answer this. The Manix is just too big for me to EDC, and it's illegal where I live, to boot. I debate trading it off, but it's sooooo solid and feels so great in my hand that I can't quite bring myself to do it. My basic take is that they fit in the same basic part of folding knife forest, big locking one-handers, similar grinds, shapes, and materials, and even a passing family resemblance. But they're different in size and feel. One clear difference is that the BM has a more tube-like and straighter handle, while the Spyderco has flat scales and a more profiled grip. The Manix is also way bigger when closed. I'd like to hear what daniel4572 or anyone else with both of these who uses them has to say.

Thanks to everyone for the nice words on my review. It's fun to be in early on a new knife.

Gus
 
I love the clean lines of the Voo's handle.

I really like the concept of the Manix, the build quality, blade profile, full liners, S30V, G10, tough lock-back etc, but the one thing that puts me off the knife (any many other Spydercos) is this:


It's not just on Spydercos either. I recently tried the BM 615 "Mini" Rukus and couldn't get on with the finger grooves. Yuck!
 
If you are interested, here some pics of my Dejavoo:
http://community.livejournal.com/ru_knife/721581.html
Overview is written in russian, sorry, I have not enough time to translate.

Nice pictures!

Very nice looking knife, any specifics on the edge geometry?

-Cliff

Unfortunately, no. The BM is notably thinner than the Manix at the ricasso--I'd guess the BM is about 1/8 inch and the Spyderco is about 5/32. I suspect that the BM is also thinner at the edge, behind the bevel. It feels that way, but I don't have a caliper. BM says they grind the bevel on this and their other knives at roughly 30 degrees inclusive. More than that I don't know.
 
How slippery / grippy are the handles?

The shape of the handle reminds me a lot of the Seki Cut D2 folders.
 
gustavosal, good review. I've been thinking about getting the Mini Dejavoo and after reading your review, I may go ahead and pick one of these up. Nice looking knife.
 
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