BOB stoves

Yes yes, sorry guys, wrong choice of words there! thanks.
Denatured alchohol, they sell it in the paint section.

gotcha.
 
Well, consensus seems to be an esbit stove but I was wondering, I have no problem with carrying around a bottle of 151 rum in my car. Even in the summer the only thing I would worry about is whether or not the heat would affect the taste. Why should I worry about carrying around a metal bottle filled with denatured alcohol?
 
A great subject Kamkazmoto. It does indeed seem that the consensus leans toward an Esbit stove, which would be an excelent choice. But I do disagree somewhat with the phrase:
Now I live in the middle of the Southern California megalopolis and finding wood for a fire might be kind of difficult
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I took an impromptu walk outside right after I read that to look for expidient combustibles.(o.k., I really went to the liquor store, but I did scrutinize for burnables) I found a variety of things to burn plenty of leaves, dried grass and tree/shrub clippings in the green recycle bins(I belive they are in O.C. as they are here in L.A. Co.),discarded bamboo shades,paper, cardboard, and if you have an implement of destruction in your vehichle i.e. a knife,crow/prybar,hatchet or the like(being that you're on BF it's safe to assume you would) you have access to an unlimited amout of wood. There are several small, collapsable stoves made specifically to burn stuff. One of them is called, I belive, a WildWood I. Not as quick to start as a solid-fuel stove, but fuel is all over the place.
 
I think you can't beat an Esbit stove for your BOB. Combine it with a stainless cup to boil water in and you're in business.

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The solid fuel stores right inside the stove and the stainless cup can nest on a Nalgene bottle of water.

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Hi Y'all,

The Swedish Army surplus cook sets are an absolute steal. Lots of military surplus stores have them at about $10. Use Heet in the yellow bottle, Denatured alcohol from the paint dept or 95% Everclear. In an emergency you can mix the Everclear with water and drink it or use it for other medicinal purposes. 151 Rum will work but won't burn as hot and will make smoke. The other fuels are nearly smokeless.

These are perfect for keeping in a car or truck.

http://www.veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e651623A2nGatf

http://cgi.ebay.com/SVEA-Trangia-Al...ryZ87136QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Steve
 
bulgron said:
I recently purchased a US Army surplus canteen (plastic, $1.75) and stainless steel canteen cup (~$4.50) for use as part of my PSK. The idea being that I can heat water in the canteen cup if it comes down to it.

I could have also purchased a canteen cup stove for less than $5.00 (gotta love those prices on Army surplus gear), which is meant to allow you to heat the contents of your canteen cup by putting something hot under the "stove" (which is really just a metal stand of some kind). Look here:

http://www.shomer-tec.com/site/product.cfm?id=99884C97-A47E-A845-814693EF1834E953

You can use almost anything to heat up the contents of the canteen cup once it's on a stand like this. When I was at the surplus store, I noticed the stove packaging suggested sterno. I've never played around with sterno so I don't know how well it would work, or more importantly how well it would store in a hot car trunk, but it seems to me that even a tiny fire (how about a candle?) could be used to heat water in this configuration.

Here's a fellow who plays around with something called a Tuna Can Burner:

http://www.alpharubicon.com/prepinfo/triggccsm.htm

Does anyone know that that is? The link to the actual Tuna Can Burner is password protected, so I can't figure out what fuel he's using in the Tuna Can.
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Hi bulgron :) ,

I am a vet and I am a big fan of the GI canteen with canteen cup and stove that all nests together in the canteen cover.

The newer cups are stainless steel and bulletproof but the earlier cups, WWII era and older, were aluminum and a lot lighter. Aluminum reproduction canteen cups are available.

The standard issue fuels for the stove are the same as the Esbit fuel. Surplus military fuel tabs are dirt cheap in bulk from surplus dealers in stores or over the net. Have a look at the bottom of this page...

http://zenstoves.net/SolidFuelBurner.htm

Sterno will work fairly well but does not burn as hot or quick.

I carry a standard size Trangia burner to use with my "walking" BOB. The Swedish military burner is bigger and won't fit.

It's a good idea to carry some foil or a piece of aluminum flashing to let the stove sit on so most of the heat reflects upward. A lid for the canteen cup can be made of something like a windshield reflector, make sure it has an aluminum layer on it.. The canteen cover can be used as a cosy to keep it hot longer.

If you have no fuel at all just build a fire in the stove with some twigs, etc, then let it get a bed of coals and put on some more wood. Then put the canteen cup on and boil away.

Steve
 
Several people are worried about carrying alcohol in a hot trunk I don't understand this, you carry several gallons of gasoline under your trunk with no problems?
 
I think everyone's suggestion for a solid-fuel esbit stove is probably your best choice. And if you went with a small alcohol stove I don't think there'd be a problem carrying denatured alcohol (except maybe evaporation if not carried in a well sealed container).

But to offer another suggestion: A MSR Whisperlite International - http://www.basspro.com/servlet/cata...-350-4-4-_--1-_-38-643-206-00&hvarAID=froogle

Where to carry the fuel? In your gas tank - just retrieve fuel when needed:
http://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-Fluid..._1_4/102-2998975-3416166?ie=UTF8&s=automotive
 
I'm off to find a surplus store for an Esbit stove. Thanks guys, BTW does it matter which solid fuel I buy and does the fuel deteriorate with age?
 
I got a tiny little aluminum fold up solid fuel stove (maybe 4" or 5" square and an inch thick) and the fuel tabs at our local boy scout store. This was around 5 years ago, but maybe they still carry it. Might be worth a shot if you are near a scout shop
 
I am a fan of;
-the BYU solar cooker (Metalized dash protector) (in the trunk) (here is a link to the BYU unit, Mine is based on a metalized windshield heat shield/dash protector with velcro to hold it into a funnel shape
http://solarcooking.org/plans/funnel.htm
http://solarcooking.org/plans/windshield-cooker.htm
-A pepsi can stove in the pack, with a pint of everclear (in case of snakebite (becarefull, you can kill yourself by chugging this stuff, makes a great boiler maker though))
-trioxane tabls to use under the canteen cup stove & as a backup/fire starter.
Enjoy!
 
That windshield reflector looks great and I never realized that a solar stove could be used to cool too! Thanks for the links
 
I live in San Diego and deal with a lot of the same heat problems in regards to leaving items in my car that you do. I have an Esbit and burn both the Esbit tabs and Triox in it. Esbit burns longer, but you need a match or lighter to get it going, Triox will light with a spark. I keep a few of each. Sometimes one tab will not bring a cupfull of wather to a full boil, so keep that in mind.

I am starting to make the swith to Denatured alchol on my camping trips. Hydrogen peroxide bottles make great containers for it, very thick and impact ressitent. Should be fine in a car.

Mike
 
I find round bottles hard to pack, while denatured alcohol is ok (and Everclear is expensive), the everclear can be used for steralization, fuel etc.
and comes in very packable 1/2 pint bottles. (I actually gave up drinking the stuff many years ago as it is pretty nasty.)
Enjoy!
 
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