Boker Plus Apparo?

can't say much seeing this for the first time. i assume even with its touted design it suffer the same type on breakage somewhere between the tang, screw and guard.

i can say the schrade extreme survival series knives are beasts. 1 solid piece of 1070 carbon steel. i bought the small spear point while back you can fit about an pointer fingers worth of gear in its hollow handle
 
can't say much seeing this for the first time. i assume even with its touted design it suffer the same type on breakage somewhere between the tang, screw and guard.
Well apparently not:
"Extreme bending tests with fixed blade have permanently deformed the blade before any kind of weak points were noticeable at the point of connection."

Although it would be interesting to have more details about what's so special about this one.
Also would be interesting to see how shock proof it is.
 
The Boker product manager said in German forums that the knife is due August 2012, so it should be available in the next weeks.
 
Is this some sort of homage (as Taratino would say) to the 80's?! I'm a fan of the Boker Plus line, but for me, this is the knife equivalent of the mad old relative locked in the attic. I'm sure it would have sold well 25 years ago, but like the crazy uncle, I think that's a bad secret that's probably better kept locked away. I think most people today generally prefer more sensible knife designs, maybe some will buy it for novelty reasons or nostalgia, others because they're daft. Personally I wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole.
 
Be interested to know you find this and anyone else who buys one, and their reasons for purchasing it.
 
As someone who loved "Commando" or every "First Blood", I would give this knife a chance.
Not as a user, but as a reminder of what we used to consider hardcore knives back in the 80s.

The practical and actual use of knives seems to have gone up a notch or two.
Round handles shaped like a broomstick, giant double handguards, blade geometry beyond all senses, that seemed to do it.
For what did people use their kives back then ?
I remember having one like these, but just for the idea of something, as a teenager.

I do own half a dozen classic survival and fighting knives without a chance of ever having to use them in their design context.
So what ?
I might get myself a used one of these.
 
As someone who loved "Commando" or every "First Blood", I would give this knife a chance.
Not as a user, but as a reminder of what we used to consider hardcore knives back in the 80s.

"We"?!

Bizarre enough knives like this were were ever considered worth buying in my opinion, but far worse that they are being produced today.
 
Honestly, that knife looks pretty cool to me. Totally ridiculous, and I'd never actually use it, but it looks cool. Not 190$ worth of cool, though...not by a long shot.
 
We ... as in "knife community". They were tres chic.

We didn't all fall for them. Survival/'combat' magazines from the period may have been full of them, but if you look through old Knives annuals from the period, such knives make up a tiny, tiny percentage of what was being produced. Hardly surprising considering that the vast majority of hollow-handled/saw-back knives produced were absolute junk. There's a reason that this style of knife has almost entirely disappeared. I can think of no other reason other than nostalgia for mis-spent youth to be buying one of these knives.
 
sometimes a huge crossguard like on this knife can get in the way of cutting.if its going to be around 190,theres alot better choices for less....
 
We didn't all fall for them. Survival/'combat' magazines from the period may have been full of them, but if you look through old Knives annuals from the period, such knives make up a tiny, tiny percentage of what was being produced. Hardly surprising considering that the vast majority of hollow-handled/saw-back knives produced were absolute junk. There's a reason that this style of knife has almost entirely disappeared. I can think of no other reason other than nostalgia for mis-spent youth to be buying one of these knives.

you are so right and so true, i hope you have some fun moments in your life, too.
 
Glad this knife was posted about cause I had no idea it existed. It'll definetly be added to my stable of hollow handle/survival knives. I'll do a review/test on it once I get one. :thumbup:
 
Glad this knife was posted about cause I had no idea it existed. It'll definetly be added to my stable of hollow handle/survival knives. I'll do a review/test on it once I get one. :thumbup:

Sweet. Looking forward to it. :thumbup:
 
Glad this knife was posted about cause I had no idea it existed. It'll definetly be added to my stable of hollow handle/survival knives. I'll do a review/test on it once I get one. :thumbup:

Just wondering if you got this and what you thought of it. Thanks!
 
We didn't buy them then, I won't buy one now. Aside from the handle attachment - which Chris Reeves solved before they were even popular - the problems were multitude.

They were heavy - the cross guard and grip added weight, the threaded plug even more. Knowledgeable soldiers learn better, you don't carry dead weight.
The blade profile is thick, and the swedge is so low it makes it even worse. It's a relatively poor slicer.
Most were also poor sticking knives, and that ability ranks low anyway. You need a knife to cut. The e-tool or bayonet is a better prybar.
The handle isn't big enough to actually carry much more than a fish hook, line, and some aspirin. You need more than that, you need a serious sized water container. That's the #1 priority.
The cord wrapping doesn't do much except make snares or bind sticks together. As a gripping surface it doesn't alter the round shape of the handle - you can't index it in your grip, and it's easier to twist.

There were about a dozen weak points commonly known at the time, and that's the reason why so many other makers were able to grow and develope designs - they didn't slavishly follow a fad, they made superior offerings. That's what sells on the market today in field knives, not the caricatured "battle knife" from a blatantly Hollywood beginning.

Yes, the original survival knife was a Randall, and it was a special one off for an aviator. Best to keep it there - a rarely used short term tool for someone completely out of his skill set.
 
I have used mine a lot and besides scuffing the matte finish it is one stout blade! Stayed extremely sharp before resharpening. I have used it to cut meat, batton wood and even make a few figure 4's. I like a heavier blade anyway for a outdoor knife. Handle is still nice and tight. They knurled the stainless handle if you don't want the cord wrap.
 
Be interested to know you find this and anyone else who buys one, and their reasons for purchasing it.

The Apparo is relatively expensive in Canada so I'm not sure if I'll be buying it. However if I were to buy it, my reasons for doing so would be the following; it looks badass, it looks cool, and I get a buzz looking at it. Nuff said.
 
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