Bolster Attachment

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I am going to try and make my first blade with bolsters soon. I have no problem getting the holes and such lined up but I notice that the tolerances for the pins on bolsters is VERY tight and once they are fitted, most times you cannot see the pins at all! I wonder if the bolster pins tolerances are just that tight or if the pin is slightly smaller than the hole and a punch or something is used to flare the ends so they fit tightley? I know that you still epoxy the bolsters on so the pins don't necessarily need to be rock solid tight but I would assume they have to be pretty tight to get them to seem to disappear into the bolster. Anyone want to enlighten me as to the proper process? Thanks a ton guys!
 
The pins need to be peened to hold the bolsters on.The epoxy is just for a moister seal.
You want to taper the holes slightly,I leave about a pin diameter sticking out each side and peen them down tight. The real secret to getting pins to disappear is Clean,Clean,Clean.Clean the inside of the holes with acetone and polish the pins.Make sure they are the same material (IE;316 or 416 for pins and bolsters.)
Stan
 
Interesting! How do you keep from marring the bolster when banging away with a hammer on the pins?
 
Finish the front of the bolsters before attaching,then take the sides of the bolster to about 80% finish,peen then on and then finish,I usually finish my bolsters with the handles attached.
Stan
 
Maybe I'm a little simple but I hope this isn't a dumb question: explain how to peen the pins. Do you have to have something under it? DO you use a punch? Give me the "for dummies " version?
 
Get the pins to size like SBuzek instructed. Set one side on a hard surface and (smuck) the other side with a ball peen hammer. Don't really (smuck) it, more of a tapping, maby a little harder. Hammer the one side some, then turn it over and do the same thing on the other side. Keep going from one side to the other side as you get it closer and closer. Try to keep the pin centerd so you have the same amount of material on each side. Try to hammer it evenly and mushroom out out nice and uniform.

SBuzek or anyone else that knows better please correct me if anything I said is wrong.

Zech
 
Again, doesn't that put great big dings in the bolster that would be really hard to get out?
 
Finish the front of the bolsters before attaching,then take the sides of the bolster to about 80% finish,peen then on and then finish,I usually finish my bolsters with the handles attached.
Stan

Try not to hit the bolster. Dapending on the size and hardness of the pins you shouldn't have to hit them that hard. Just take your time.

Zech
 
As the pin heads start to mushroom out you should just be hitting the pins,not the bolster,As zeck said use a hard surface on one side and keep them even,If you want to give me a call 936-372-1933 and I'll walk you through it.
Stan
 
I may do that. Not today as I'm not in a place where I can work on it. I'm gonna keep that number and once I get a chance, if I have a problem I may give you a call. Otherwise I don't want to be a pest so I'll see what I can do. I REALLY appreciate the help!
 
You won't be a pest,I'll talk knives with a fence post if it will stand still:D
Evenings around 7 CST is the best to catch me,or on the weekend.
Stan
 
Hey prophet,

When I peen pins I try not to just mushroom the heads, but instead drive as much of that pin into the hole as I can. That, for me is the whole trick.
Along with what Stan advised you can make the pins absolutely disappear.
Don't worry too much about the finish on the bolster.
the only part that should be finished at this point is the front.

Greg Shahan
 
That also makes sense. Not necesarily a different way to do it but a different mindset and will make it easier to do right. As for the bolster finish, I'm just concerned that somewhere I'll whack the bolster or the hard surface will touch the bolster while I'm whacking it and it'll dent it in a way that won'tpolish out easily which scares me cause the bolster will already be epoxied on. With that idea, once you peen the pin to satisfaction do you just sand it flaet or will I need to grind it? I guess my question is how far, after the pin is peened, should it stick up from the bolster. Good advice and I appreciate it!
 
I'll have a mushroomed hump about a 1/16" tall that has to be ground or filed off but this is done with the final finishing and shaping of the bolster.
Stan
 
There is one other element to peening bolsters that is often the nemesis of newbies. The tang hole needs to be at least 5-10% larger than the pin. If the tang hole is a snug fit, like the bolster hole, the pin will start to bulge a tad there, and raise the bolster a tiny bit off the tang. It takes all sorts of serious whacking to get it to lay flat....if it ever does. I can look at the bolsters on many new makers knives and see that gap caused by too tight tang holes. I also put a small chamfer on the bolsters and the tang where they meet ( on the inside...not the outside) just to be on the safe size..

As said, the bolster hole should be reamed....preferably with 5 degree taper carbide reamer ( or similar) .....to give it a slight taper. The pin will then expand to seal this extra space, and lock the assembly solid and tight forever. If you just do a small chamfer on the hole rim, you may well grind that whole area off in the finishing and shaping...and the bolster will pop right off.
As Stan pointed out - NEVER put glue in the rivet hole ,or it will show up as a circle around the river - maybe now, maybe later. The pina and the hole need to be free of polish, grit, and any oil/dirt/glue, etc.

What I do with folks who want help riveting a bolster on is suggest they take a piece of flat stock and cut two one inch pieces and a six inch piece. These will be the tang and the bolsters. Don't worry about grinding them flat, this is just practice. Drill one bolster pin hole through the assembly, slide in a pin, and drill the second hole ( Don't even think about drilling both at one time). Then enlarge the tang holes with a drill bit a few numbers larger. Cut the pins one to one-and-a-half diameters longer than the stack's thickness.For a 3/8" stack and 1/8" rivet pins, the pin should be .500" to .550" long, with flat filed ends.You can file a tiny chamfer on one end of the pins...the key word is tiny. Place a piece of thin shirt cardboard ( about 1/16" thick) on the anvil or other hard, smooth, and flat metal surface. The cardboard is to allow the pin to move a bit out of the other bolster when first starting the peening. Place the assembly on the cardboard/anvil, hold it down snug with two fingers, and lightly peen the rivets with the round end of a ball peen hammer. Just five or ten light taps to start mushrooming the heads. Turn the assembly over, and remove the cardboard. Peen the other side. Flip over again and work the heads with medium taps...flip and tap, repeat until the rivets are fully mushrooms and larger than the holes. If there is too much sticking out still ( because you left too much to start with) file it down until there is just about 1/16" sticking out. Now you can use the planishing side of the ball peen hammer to really set the rivets solid. Polishing the hammer face is a good idea for a smooth finish.
From there you just file and sand the pins flush and finish the bolsters. I don't shape or smooth the bolster beyond basic shape until the handle is on the knife.

Once the procedure is fully understood on practice metal, go and do your knife and bolsters.

Those who do a lot of bolster riveting on a larger scale, use a hydraulic rivet press to do the job....but it requires learning the skill before you take that on.
 
Ok I think I understand this and I have some practice to do but to be certain I have a few questions and statements. First, I understand chamfer between the bolster and the tang to be almost like a countersink hole on the inside where the metal has a little more room to expand without pushing the bolster up. Almost like a routered edge slightly larger around the outside of where the holes touch. Is this right cause the whole chamfer thing is confusing me a bit. Then filing a chamfer on one end of the pins means basically tapering the end almost like the beginning of sharpening a pencil? If that is what you mean then what purpose does this serve? I would assume gives an inward direction for the peening and makes a more even mushrooming of the pin? Last for the length of the pin you said one to one and a half diameters longer than the stacks thickness. So I'm to understand because it is 3/8" one more eighth makes it a .500 so basically whatever unit you are using you go one to one and a half more? So if the thickness were say 3/4ths you would go to 1" in length? I'm a little unsure of this translation and how to compute how much length I need for the pin. I know I can just file it off if it comes to that but I want to make sure it's right. Also you said, "For a 1/8 rivet pin" does the size of the pin matter as to how much you want sticking out each side? Last, I tried searching for a 5 degree taper carbide reamer for either my dremel or a drill press but couldn't find anything so any advice on where I can find them or at least look at them online so I know what I'm looking for?
 
I would assume that that formula for the length of the pin is because it pushes down into the bolster and expands, thus shortening the pin in a predicatable way. And the taper, yeah I see just a very slight rounding of the edge of an already flat pin, correct? I want to say that you guys have been AMAZINGLY helpful! I wish there was some way I could show my appreciation other than to just say thanks but, well....thanks. I love doing these knives and I want to be good at it someday and you guys are really helping me a lot!
 
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